Luc,
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:43 PM Luc Verhaegen via flashrom < flashrom@flashrom.org> wrote:
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 05:21:42PM -0600, Martin L Roth wrote:
Hi Luc, I haven't really followed what's been going on at flashrom due to some
personal
issues of my own, but my understanding, and note that I could be mistaken about some things, follows:
There was a decision made to fork the original flashrom to
flashrom-stable.
My understanding is that Nico was leaving the flashrom fork to maintain flashrom-stable.
At that point, in my opinion, Nico has somewhat divorced himself from the original flashrom project. I (in a probably naive fashion) wouldn't expect Ubuntu maintainers to go be complaining about how debian is run, for example. They have their own distro to maintain, so they can change what they want to be how they want in their own distro.
As far as any issues between the two flashrom forks, I again haven't followed this, but it seems like there might have been continuing conflicts.
Because of this, it doesn't seem *completely* unreasonable to remove the head of a competing fork from working on, commenting on, or having anything to do with the original fork. This can be (and was) decided by the leadership of the original
fork.
"The leadership" being...
I know you have not really been actively contributing a whole lot of code in the last few years, so you probably didn't really follow the project along much and missed the announcement here. Anastasia was formally announced as leader of the flashrom project last month after reaching out to all meaningful, active contributors and having a conversation with each of them individually.
There is no further discussion owed to you about this, whether you like it or not. If you want to work with Nico on the flashrom-stable fork, you're more than welcome to do so.
As someone who wrote a good chunk of the board_enable code, and spent several years helping actual users flash bioses on their machines directly, i am owed a complete and detailed explanation, especially when "bullying" and "lying" is publicly and loudly claimed to have happened.
Where did you get that idea?
I also expect there to be more than one person deciding this.
The decision was not made in a vacuum.
What you're not welcome to do is what you're doing now. Whether or not you like the decision that was made, you need to be respectful to other community members on the mailing list.
In my opinion, the comments you are making towards Anastasia are, at the very least, close to violating the code of conduct. If it were up to me, I'd say that you had already crossed that line and that consequences of your behavior shouldn't be surprising if and/or when they occur.
I can understand that you can feel upset about things that are happening in the communities, but knowing all of the people involved, I can assure you that these sorts of issues are not taken lightly, quickly, or without thought.
Maybe consider that there *might* be reasons that further discussion about what's going on can't or shouldn't take place in the public. Think about what those reasons might be. Again we're all part of the open source community, and would prefer to do things in the open, so if that's not happening, maybe there's a reason.
If such actions are taken publicly, and if such claims are made publicly, about one of the people with the longest sustained trackrecords of flashrom contributions, then the detailed reasoning for and the quorum backing such actions needs to be public as well.
All i see is an ad hominem attack, aided by the abuse of admin access, by one person, against one of the projects mainstays.
Again, you might have missed the last few years of history of this project. Nico has formally resigned from the project in 2020. It is time to move on.
And there seems to be nothing but corporate affiliation, that allows this to happen. A meritocracy this is not.
Conspiracy theories here we come. Really, Luc?
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