On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:14:04 -0700 David Hendricks email@example.com wrote:
Thanks for the detailed write-up. I suppose there's another part coming so I don't want to get too deep into discussion just yet, but one part in particular caught my eye:
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Stefan Tauner firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
While there was a bunch of patches that have been piled up back then it was less of a problem then the increasing divergence between the chromiumos fork and upstream. Thus we have discussed ways to converge that (by pulling changes mainly from upstream into chromium but also vice versa) and also increase the pace of merging stuff into upstream later. This was still with no intention to switch to git because of Carl-Daniel's concerns.
I'm surprised that you think that chromiumos's divergence is a *worse* problem than the huge backlog of upstream patches. The chromiumos fork is self-contained, has its own review system, its own testing, and is targeted at a narrow set of devices. I don't understand how it could have been a problem for upstream and would be interested if you can elaborate on this point.
No *is* but *was*. This was (explicitly) describing my view/conception in 2014. Back then there was way more progress upstream and less backlog of big patches. It was actually you who brought up the topic in that meeting IIRC. The problem as I understood it then was that the overhead of picking upstream patches for the chromiumos was perceived as getting out of hand. Likewise it was a petty to backport interesting things back (support for new intel boards, which were taken by me from chromiumos multiple times IIRC).
FWIW I did try pushing some features from chromiumos to upstream, but like other patches they never really got anywhere. I also tried working with Carl-Daniel for a couple months to sync the trees, but that effort didn't get very far.
I am not sure how you tried to get them in but I don't see any open threads regarding any (big) patches by you on the ML... However there were a big number of changes that were forward ported to chromium by you back then and more recently Patrick.