Because of the threat of legal action from one party involved against another party, all communication about this has been stopped.
Ceasing communication when someone threatens legal action is pretty normal.
Due to this, do not expect any further communication on this matter from anyone in leadership role in the flashrom project.
If there was a desire for clear communication, the threat of legal action eliminated that possibility. There's a reason that the standard answer from everyone is "I can't comment about the subject due to ongoing litigation." Anything that's said from this point on could end up in court.
In this case, as far as I know, nothing has actually been filed, but just the possibility of having a lawsuit filed has made sure that nobody is going to discuss anything further.
I hope you can understand the situation and why nothing more can, or will, be discussed in public.
Thanks for understanding. Martin
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 3:30 AM Sean Nelson audiohacked@gmail.com wrote:
What's unhealthy is the attitude on both sides. This project is supposed to be an Open Source project, where anyone's contribution is valued based on the patch's merit. Regardless of the author's personal belief or stance. I've actually been reading the mailing list for the last 10 years. Banning someone because of allegations of hurting someone's feelings has no merit.
Signed-off-by: Sean Nelson audiohacked@gmail.com
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 3:47 AM Edward O'Callaghan via flashrom flashrom@flashrom.org wrote:
OK, Is this healthy?
On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 17:25, Luc Verhaegen via flashrom flashrom@flashrom.org wrote:
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 06:04:13PM -0700, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
Luc,
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:43 PM Luc Verhaegen via flashrom < flashrom@flashrom.org> wrote:
"The leadership" being...
I know you have not really been actively contributing a whole lot of code in the last few years, so you probably didn't really follow the project along much and missed the announcement here. Anastasia was formally announced as leader of the flashrom project last month after reaching out to all meaningful, active contributors and having a conversation with each of them individually.
So a supreme leader was needed for this small project then?
As someone who wrote a good chunk of the board_enable code, and spent several years helping actual users flash bioses on their machines directly, i am owed a complete and detailed explanation, especially when "bullying" and "lying" is publicly and loudly claimed to have happened.
Where did you get that idea?
Aha. No details needed then for former contributors, the supreme generalist leader has decided, that's all we need to know.
I also expect there to be more than one person deciding this.
The decision was not made in a vacuum.
By which you imply that this decision was taken by Anastasia on her own, with her being supreme leader and all.
If such actions are taken publicly, and if such claims are made publicly, about one of the people with the longest sustained trackrecords of flashrom contributions, then the detailed reasoning for and the quorum backing such actions needs to be public as well.
All i see is an ad hominem attack, aided by the abuse of admin access, by one person, against one of the projects mainstays.
Again, you might have missed the last few years of history of this project. Nico has formally resigned from the project in 2020. It is time to move on.
Yes, time to move on indeed.
And there seems to be nothing but corporate affiliation, that allows this to happen. A meritocracy this is not.
Conspiracy theories here we come. Really, Luc?
So you went and confirmed that this was the decision of a single person, who felt legitimized by being proclaimed to be the supreme leader, even though this persons code contributions were only superficial, and the interest of this person in this project has singularily been due to being tasked by her employer to do so... And it just happens to be the same employer you work for, and that Thomas used to work for...
And then you try to claim that this a comspiracy theory to muffle any further dissent?
Really Stefan?
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