10:32 p.m.
Hi folks,
The attached patch changes OFMEM so that instead of allocating new space
within the Forth dictionary every time the /memory and /virtual-memory
available/translations nodes are updated, we simply change the property
to point directly to a static buffer. This has the effect of saving
substantial amounts of memory during OpenSolaris 10 boot (in fact the
final dictionary size after boot is now < 256K once again).
Blue/Andreas: please could you take a look at this patch and make sure
it doesn't break anything in your SPARC64/PPC tests?
On the plus side, with this patch applied Milax gets to the end of its
natural boot without crashing giving the following output:
OpenBIOS for Sparc64
Configuration device id QEMU version 1 machine id 0
kernel cmdline
CPUs: 1 x SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi
UUID: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
Welcome to OpenBIOS v1.0 built on Oct 14 2010 20:18
Type 'help' for detailed information
Trying cdrom:f...
Not a bootable ELF image
Not a bootable a.out image
Loading FCode image...
Loaded 7084 bytes
entry point is 0x4000
Ignoring failed claim for va 1000000 memsz bf34e!
Ignoring failed claim for va 1402000 memsz 303b3!
Ignoring failed claim for va 1800000 memsz 60a30!
Jumping to entry point 00000000010071d8 for type 0000000000000001...
switching to new context: entry point 0x10071d8 stack 0x00000000ffe06b49
warning:interpret: exception -13 caught
SunOS Release 5.11 Version MilaX_0.3.2 64-bit
Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
spacex@:interpret: exception -13 caught
kdbg-words:interpret: exception -13 caught
cb-r/w:interpret: exception -13 caught
(Can't load tod module) EXIT
-1 >
Does anyone know what the tod modules does? Is it Time Of Day (i.e. we
are missing some kind of hardware clock emulation?)
ATB,
Mark.
--
Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect
PostgreSQL - PostGIS
Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom
http://www.siriusit.co.uk
t: +44 870 608 0063
Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs
10:46 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland
<mark.cave-ayland(a)siriusit.co.uk> wrote:
Hi folks,
The attached patch changes OFMEM so that instead of allocating new space
within the Forth dictionary every time the /memory and /virtual-memory
available/translations nodes are updated, we simply change the property to
point directly to a static buffer. This has the effect of saving substantial
amounts of memory during OpenSolaris 10 boot (in fact the final dictionary
size after boot is now < 256K once again).
Blue/Andreas: please could you take a look at this patch and make sure it
doesn't break anything in your SPARC64/PPC tests?
On the plus side, with this patch applied Milax gets to the end of its
natural boot without crashing giving the following output:
OpenBIOS for Sparc64
Configuration device id QEMU version 1 machine id 0
kernel cmdline
CPUs: 1 x SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi
UUID: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
Welcome to OpenBIOS v1.0 built on Oct 14 2010 20:18
Type 'help' for detailed information
Trying cdrom:f...
Not a bootable ELF image
Not a bootable a.out image
Loading FCode image...
Loaded 7084 bytes
entry point is 0x4000
Ignoring failed claim for va 1000000 memsz bf34e!
Ignoring failed claim for va 1402000 memsz 303b3!
Ignoring failed claim for va 1800000 memsz 60a30!
Jumping to entry point 00000000010071d8 for type 0000000000000001...
switching to new context: entry point 0x10071d8 stack 0x00000000ffe06b49
warning:interpret: exception -13 caught
SunOS Release 5.11 Version MilaX_0.3.2 64-bit
Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
spacex@:interpret: exception -13 caught
kdbg-words:interpret: exception -13 caught
cb-r/w:interpret: exception -13 caught
(Can't load tod module) EXIT
-1 >
Cool! Congrats!
Does anyone know what the tod modules does? Is it Time
Of Day (i.e. we are
missing some kind of hardware clock emulation?)
I think so. Actually m48t59 is emulated in sparc32, but not connected
in case of sparc64.
--
Regards,
Artyom Tarasenko
solaris/sparc under qemu blog: http://tyom.blogspot.com/
11:01 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland
<mark.cave-ayland(a)siriusit.co.uk> wrote:
The referencing comment in the opensolaris source:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/sun4u/o...
* Appropriate tod module will be dynamically selected while booting
* based on finding a device tree node with a "device_type" property value
* of "tod". If such a node describing tod is not found, for backward
* compatibility, a node with a "name" property value of "eeprom" and
* "model" property value of "mk48t59" will be used. Failing to find a
* node matching either of the above criteria will result in no tod module
* being selected; this will cause the boot process to halt
On the real U30 machine:
ok cd /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
ok .properties
address fffa4000
reg 00000014 00000000 00002000
model mk48t59
name eeprom
ok
--
Regards,
Artyom Tarasenko
solaris/sparc under qemu blog: http://tyom.blogspot.com/
Hi folks,
The attached patch changes OFMEM so that instead of allocating new space
within the Forth dictionary every time the /memory and /virtual-memory
available/translations nodes are updated, we simply change the property to
point directly to a static buffer. This has the effect of saving substantial
amounts of memory during OpenSolaris 10 boot (in fact the final dictionary
size after boot is now < 256K once again).
Blue/Andreas: please could you take a look at this patch and make sure it
doesn't break anything in your SPARC64/PPC tests?
On the plus side, with this patch applied Milax gets to the end of its
natural boot without crashing giving the following output:
OpenBIOS for Sparc64
Configuration device id QEMU version 1 machine id 0
kernel cmdline
CPUs: 1 x SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi
UUID: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
Welcome to OpenBIOS v1.0 built on Oct 14 2010 20:18
Type 'help' for detailed information
Trying cdrom:f...
Not a bootable ELF image
Not a bootable a.out image
Loading FCode image...
Loaded 7084 bytes
entry point is 0x4000
Ignoring failed claim for va 1000000 memsz bf34e!
Ignoring failed claim for va 1402000 memsz 303b3!
Ignoring failed claim for va 1800000 memsz 60a30!
Jumping to entry point 00000000010071d8 for type 0000000000000001...
switching to new context: entry point 0x10071d8 stack 0x00000000ffe06b49
warning:interpret: exception -13 caught
SunOS Release 5.11 Version MilaX_0.3.2 64-bit
Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
spacex@:interpret: exception -13 caught
kdbg-words:interpret: exception -13 caught
cb-r/w:interpret: exception -13 caught
(Can't load tod module) EXIT
-1 >
Cool! Congrats!
Does anyone know what the tod modules does? Is it
Time Of Day (i.e. we are
missing some kind of hardware clock emulation?)
I think so. Actually m48t59 is emulated in sparc32, but not connected
in case of sparc64.
3:43 p.m.
Artyom Tarasenko wrote:
Oh, that's interesting. If I look in drivers/obio.c then I can see an
eeprom device named "mk48t08" rather than "mk48t59". Is this a typo,
or
does it need a new explicit device defined in pci.c's ebus_config_cb()
somewhere?
If this is the case, it appears that qemu-system-sparc64 is set to use
mc146818rtc rather m48t59 and so there is going to have to be a qemu
build patch required here too.
ATB,
Mark.
--
Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect
PostgreSQL - PostGIS
Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom
http://www.siriusit.co.uk
t: +44 870 608 0063
Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs
I think so.
Actually m48t59 is emulated in sparc32, but not connected
in case of sparc64.
The referencing comment in the opensolaris source:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/sun4u/o...
* Appropriate tod module will be dynamically selected while booting
* based on finding a device tree node with a "device_type" property value
* of "tod". If such a node describing tod is not found, for backward
* compatibility, a node with a "name" property value of "eeprom" and
* "model" property value of "mk48t59" will be used. Failing to find
a
* node matching either of the above criteria will result in no tod module
* being selected; this will cause the boot process to halt
On the real U30 machine:
ok cd /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
ok .properties
address fffa4000
reg 00000014 00000000 00002000
model mk48t59
name eeprom
ok 
7:57 p.m.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland
<mark.cave-ayland(a)siriusit.co.uk> wrote:
Artyom Tarasenko wrote:
Oh, that's interesting. If I look in drivers/obio.c then I can see an eeprom
device named "mk48t08" rather than "mk48t59". Is this a typo, or does
it
need a new explicit device defined in pci.c's ebus_config_cb() somewhere?
mk48t59 is a newer version of mk48t08, there is alarm etc.
I think
so. Actually m48t59 is emulated in sparc32, but not connected
in case of sparc64.
The referencing comment in the opensolaris source:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/sun4u/o...
* Appropriate tod module will be dynamically selected while booting
* based on finding a device tree node with a "device_type" property value
* of "tod". If such a node describing tod is not found, for backward
* compatibility, a node with a "name" property value of "eeprom" and
* "model" property value of "mk48t59" will be used. Failing to find
a
* node matching either of the above criteria will result in no tod module
* being selected; this will cause the boot process to halt
On the real U30 machine:
ok cd /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
ok .properties
address fffa4000
reg 00000014 00000000 00002000
model mk48t59
name eeprom
ok If this is the case, it appears that
qemu-system-sparc64 is set to use
mc146818rtc rather m48t59 and so there is going to have to be a qemu build
patch required here too.
Actually, while mc146818rtc is linked in, it's not used (there are
some machines that have similar device, so that's why it still hangs
around). m48t59 is on ebus.
Maybe it's time to pick a specific real machine type instead of 'Sun4u
platform'. Something that is not too far from what we have now, with
PC-like hardware. Is Netra-T1 OK?
9:09 p.m.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe it's time to pick a specific real machine
type instead of 'Sun4u
platform'. Something that is not too far from what we have now, with
PC-like hardware. Is Netra-T1 OK?
Just curious, why not U5, U10 or U30?
--
Regards,
Artyom Tarasenko
solaris/sparc under qemu blog: http://tyom.blogspot.com/
9:20 p.m.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Blue Swirl
<blauwirbel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
U5 could be indeed better, since there's a display (ATYFB). I don't
have a device tree for Ultra 10. U30 has a Psycho bridge instead of
Sabre and FFB display. Otherwise all four look pretty similar.
Maybe it's time to pick a specific real
machine type instead of 'Sun4u
platform'. Something that is not too far from what we have now, with
PC-like hardware. Is Netra-T1 OK?
Just curious, why not U5, U10 or U30?
12:44 p.m.
Blue Swirl wrote:
To be honest, I'm not really bothered as long as Solaris 9 and above
will work, and I can migrate an existing drive image from physical to
virtual (though this wouldn't necessarily have to be with the same drivers).
ATB,
Mark.
--
Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect
PostgreSQL - PostGIS
Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom
http://www.siriusit.co.uk
t: +44 870 608 0063
Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs
If this is the
case, it appears that qemu-system-sparc64 is set to use
mc146818rtc rather m48t59 and so there is going to have to be a qemu build
patch required here too.
Actually, while mc146818rtc is linked in, it's not used (there are
some machines that have similar device, so that's why it still hangs
around). m48t59 is on ebus.
Maybe it's time to pick a specific real machine type instead of 'Sun4u
platform'. Something that is not too far from what we have now, with
PC-like hardware. Is Netra-T1 OK?
9:57 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland
<mark.cave-ayland(a)siriusit.co.uk> wrote:
Artyom Tarasenko wrote:
Oh, that's interesting. If I look in drivers/obio.c then I can see an eeprom
device named "mk48t08" rather than "mk48t59". Is this a typo, or does
it
need a new explicit device defined in pci.c's ebus_config_cb() somewhere?
Have you meanwhile tried to change the name to "mk48t59" ? I think
changing the chip in qemu is not neccessary (and even if it is the
name in OpenBIOS has to be changed anyway).
--
Regards,
Artyom Tarasenko
solaris/sparc under qemu blog: http://tyom.blogspot.com/
I think
so. Actually m48t59 is emulated in sparc32, but not connected
in case of sparc64.
The referencing comment in the opensolaris source:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/sun4u/o...
* Appropriate tod module will be dynamically selected while booting
* based on finding a device tree node with a "device_type" property value
* of "tod". If such a node describing tod is not found, for backward
* compatibility, a node with a "name" property value of "eeprom" and
* "model" property value of "mk48t59" will be used. Failing to find
a
* node matching either of the above criteria will result in no tod module
* being selected; this will cause the boot process to halt
On the real U30 machine:
ok cd /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
ok .properties
address fffa4000
reg 00000014 00000000 00002000
model mk48t59
name eeprom
ok
11:19 a.m.
On 04/05/11 08:57, Artyom Tarasenko wrote:
Oh, that's interesting. If I look in drivers/obio.c then I can see an eeprom
device named "mk48t08" rather than "mk48t59". Is this a typo, or does
it
need a new explicit device defined in pci.c's ebus_config_cb() somewhere?
Have you meanwhile tried to change the name to "mk48t59" ? I think
changing the chip in qemu is not neccessary (and even if it is the
name in OpenBIOS has to be changed anyway).
If Blue's subsequent comment about it already being wired up to the ebus
is correct, then yes, probably renaming might work if the device
registers are mapped correctly. Alas this was the last time I touched
SPARC64 before switching to SPARC32, and so I never really looked into this.
ATB,
Mark.
--
Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect
PostgreSQL - PostGIS
Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom
http://www.siriusit.co.uk
t: +44 870 608 0063
Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs
I think so.
Actually m48t59 is emulated in sparc32, but not connected
in case of sparc64.
The referencing comment in the opensolaris source:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/sun4u/o...
* Appropriate tod module will be dynamically selected while booting
* based on finding a device tree node with a "device_type" property value
* of "tod". If such a node describing tod is not found, for backward
* compatibility, a node with a "name" property value of "eeprom" and
* "model" property value of "mk48t59" will be used. Failing to find
a
* node matching either of the above criteria will result in no tod module
* being selected; this will cause the boot process to halt
On the real U30 machine:
ok cd /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
ok .properties
address fffa4000
reg 00000014 00000000 00002000
model mk48t59
name eeprom
ok
12:14 p.m.
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland
<mark.cave-ayland(a)siriusit.co.uk> wrote:
On 04/05/11 08:57, Artyom Tarasenko wrote:
Have you meanwhile tried to change the name to "mk48t59" ? I think
changing the chip in qemu is not neccessary (and even if it is the
name in OpenBIOS has to be changed anyway).
If Blue's subsequent comment about it already being wired up to the ebus is
correct, then yes, probably renaming might work if the device registers are
mapped correctly.
Yes, Blue is right (and I've managed to correct my wrong statement one
day before he did),
the device is connected via ebus.
> I think so. Actually m48t59 is emulated in
sparc32, but not connected
> in case of sparc64.
The referencing comment in the opensolaris source:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/sun4u/o...
* Appropriate tod module will be dynamically selected while booting
* based on finding a device tree node with a "device_type" property
value
* of "tod". If such a node describing tod is not found, for backward
* compatibility, a node with a "name" property value of "eeprom" and
* "model" property value of "mk48t59" will be used. Failing to find
a
* node matching either of the above criteria will result in no tod
module
* being selected; this will cause the boot process to halt
On the real U30 machine:
ok cd /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
ok .properties
address fffa4000
reg 00000014 00000000 00002000
model mk48t59
name eeprom
ok
Oh, that's interesting. If I look in drivers/obio.c then I can see an
eeprom
device named "mk48t08" rather than "mk48t59". Is this a typo, or does
it
need a new explicit device defined in pci.c's ebus_config_cb() somewhere? Alas this was the last time I touched SPARC64 before
switching to SPARC32, and so I never really looked into this.
ATB,
Mark.
--
Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect
PostgreSQL - PostGIS
Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom
http://www.siriusit.co.uk
t: +44 870 608 0063
Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs
--
Regards,
Artyom Tarasenko
solaris/sparc under qemu blog: http://tyom.blogspot.com/
11:39 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Actually m48t59 is emulated in sparc32, but not
connected
in case of sparc64.
Wrong. It is connected to isa (ebus), nevermind.
--
Regards,
Artyom Tarasenko
solaris/sparc under qemu blog: http://tyom.blogspot.com/
5:18 p.m.
New subject: [PATCH] RFC: Change ofmem_common.c to set memory translation properties by reference
Mark,
Am 14.10.2010 um 22:32 schrieb Mark Cave-Ayland:
The attached patch changes OFMEM so that instead of
allocating new
space within the Forth dictionary every time the /memory and /
virtual-memory available/translations nodes are updated, we simply
change the property to point directly to a static buffer. This has
the effect of saving substantial amounts of memory during
OpenSolaris 10 boot (in fact the final dictionary size after boot is
now < 256K once again).
Blue/Andreas: please could you take a look at this patch and make
sure it doesn't break anything in your SPARC64/PPC tests?
It looks as if none of us actually tested or ack'ed it yet, all
answers were about sparc progress and devices only...
Me for one couldn't save your inline patch and my mailer is known to
cause whitespace damage, and git-am wasn't able to handle the mbox
file since your SVN diff is missing the a/ directory level expected by
Git.
If you're asking for comments from us, please be more patient. I'm
still playing with Blue's slightly older libgcc patch, and some
trivial ones of mine (e.g., CONFIG_RTAS or wrong return) are awaiting
review/committing longer than yours. Please at least let us know in
advance how long you're gonna wait, so that we have a chance to send
in incomplete review comments even if still untested.
I like the general optimization idea, but I found one typo s/fix/fit/
and I was wondering whether the property setting function really needs
to live inside ofmem_common.c or whether we might want to make
set_property_nocopy() out of it for general use.
I also had some style questions related to the inconsistent use of
spacing inside braces. Some ppc code even has a wild mix of tabs and 8
spaces, which is unfortunate when many other projects including QEMU
use an indentation of 4. We're lacking a CODING_STYLE document imo, to
look up which way it's supposed to be.
BR,
Andreas
P.S. I have local patches to prepare ofmem_release() inside
ofmem_common.c.
6:40 p.m.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Andreas Färber <andreas.faerber(a)web.de> wrote:
Mark,
Am 14.10.2010 um 22:32 schrieb Mark Cave-Ayland:
I'll give them a spin.
The attached patch changes OFMEM so that instead
of allocating new space
within the Forth dictionary every time the /memory and /virtual-memory
available/translations nodes are updated, we simply change the property to
point directly to a static buffer. This has the effect of saving substantial
amounts of memory during OpenSolaris 10 boot (in fact the final dictionary
size after boot is now < 256K once again).
Blue/Andreas: please could you take a look at this patch and make sure it
doesn't break anything in your SPARC64/PPC tests?
It looks as if none of us actually tested or ack'ed it yet, all answers were
about sparc progress and devices only...
Me for one couldn't save your inline patch and my mailer is known to cause
whitespace damage, and git-am wasn't able to handle the mbox file since your
SVN diff is missing the a/ directory level expected by Git.
If you're asking for comments from us, please be more patient. I'm still
playing with Blue's slightly older libgcc patch, and some trivial ones of
mine (e.g., CONFIG_RTAS or wrong return) are awaiting review/committing
longer than yours. Please at least let us know in advance how long you're
gonna wait, so that we have a chance to send in incomplete review comments
even if still untested. I like the general optimization idea, but I found one
typo s/fix/fit/ and I
was wondering whether the property setting function really needs to live
inside ofmem_common.c or whether we might want to make set_property_nocopy()
out of it for general use.
I also had some style questions related to the inconsistent use of spacing
inside braces. Some ppc code even has a wild mix of tabs and 8 spaces, which
is unfortunate when many other projects including QEMU use an indentation of
4. We're lacking a CODING_STYLE document imo, to look up which way it's
supposed to be.
I'd vote for QEMU style because of common developer base and even
small amount of shared code.
12:54 p.m.
Andreas Färber wrote:
I feel your pain when it comes to having multiple patchsets on the go at
once. For a while, I ended up with about 3 simultaneous sets working
various things that had bugs, which when I fixed had other other bugs...
In terms of the patch comments, maybe I could have waited longer.
Generally the OpenBIOS code is still being actively developed, and so
the few people actively working on the code generally push on with what
they are doing, and as long as people don't introduce regressions then
no-one complains too loudly.
A few times when I've been unsure about a patch, I've posted it to the
list for comment and people have been fairly quick in the past to
criticise any bad points, so mostly I accept lack of response that
people are generally happy with it. Perhaps now with more people working
on the code we should reconsider this? I also did a complete set of
testing on my PPC test images and didn't see any regressions there, so I
felt it was reasonably safe...
Blue/Andreas:
please could you take a look at this patch and make sure
it doesn't break anything in your SPARC64/PPC tests?
It looks as if none of us actually tested or ack'ed it yet, all answers
were about sparc progress and devices only...
Me for one couldn't save your inline patch and my mailer is known to
cause whitespace damage, and git-am wasn't able to handle the mbox file
since your SVN diff is missing the a/ directory level expected by Git.
If you're asking for comments from us, please be more patient. I'm still
playing with Blue's slightly older libgcc patch, and some trivial ones
of mine (e.g., CONFIG_RTAS or wrong return) are awaiting
review/committing longer than yours. Please at least let us know in
advance how long you're gonna wait, so that we have a chance to send in
incomplete review comments even if still untested. I like the general optimization idea, but I found one
typo s/fix/fit/
and I was wondering whether the property setting function really needs
to live inside ofmem_common.c or whether we might want to make
set_property_nocopy() out of it for general use.
Yes possibly, although I think strings/integers need to be encoded (and
it is the encoding process that makes the copy of the input) whereas
natively the properties work using byte arrays and so we can just set
the property to point directly to them.
I also had some style questions related to the
inconsistent use of
spacing inside braces. Some ppc code even has a wild mix of tabs and 8
spaces, which is unfortunate when many other projects including QEMU use
an indentation of 4. We're lacking a CODING_STYLE document imo, to look
up which way it's supposed to be.
Yes, maybe we should start thinking more about CODING_STYLE...
BR,
Andreas
P.S. I have local patches to prepare ofmem_release() inside ofmem_common.c.
Interesting - these would be very useful :)
ATB,
Mark.
--
Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect
PostgreSQL - PostGIS
Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom
http://www.siriusit.co.uk
t: +44 870 608 0063
Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs
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