OpenBIOS January 2000

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OT: linux kernel problem
by Edwin Rhodes 17 Jul '00

17 Jul '00

when compiling my linux kernel i keep on recieving this message: Warning: Clock Skew Detected Build May Be Incomplete It seams to compile ok. What does this error message mean?? and how can i fix it. thanks edwin ps. I have only been getting this message since i upgraded to an AMD K6-2 500Mhz.

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ROM-Emulators
by Winter Jörg 01 Feb '00

01 Feb '00

> ---------- > Von: Edwin Rhodes[SMTP:edwin_rhodes@hotmail.com] > Antwort an: openbios(a)freiburg.linux.de > Gesendet: Montag, 31. Januar 2000 02:26 > An: openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de > Betreff: Re: [OpenBIOS] Fine. > > can i have a copy of this rom-emulator? > thanks edwin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Winter Jörg <joerg.winter(a)disch-gmbh.de> > To: <openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:50 AM > Subject: [OpenBIOS] Fine. > I´m sorry, but a copy of my ROM-Emulator would not be what you expext ... I was not talking about Software. The Emulator is a little piece of Hardware that I bought. It is intended to be inserted into a standard 32 Pin Jedec-Memory Socket. Then you download a 64k image via the parallel port of any PC into this Hardware. You press reset at the board and it boots ... well sometimes ... If you are interested in such an Hardware try th e following urls as a start: www.hed.de (they make tools for embedded and microcontrol. I once talked to their Boss and got the impression that they are really good!) www.embedded-tools.de (they have a modular Emulator called PromJet. Its able to act like rom/ram/flash up to 16Mbit and 32Bit Words. Furthermore it can handle operating voltages from 2 to 5V. It also has an ethernet plug ...) Well this is not an advertisement ... I did not test these devices but they seem interesting to me ... > eMail: mailto:Joerg.Winter@Disch-GmbH.de > > - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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IDE and IRQ's
by Jaime Dias 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

I have read openBios mail for a while, and i want to know if there is any kind of code to the ide chips and to irq handlers, cause it could be useful for the AROS team (www.aros.org) , if anyone can help i would apreciate. best regards, Jaime Dias

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RE: [OpenBIOS] Starting Linux from the C environment
by Stawnyczy, Evan 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

then is OpenBIOS going to include a bootloader? -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Sullivan [mailto:matthew@netscape.com] Sent: January 31, 2000 1:20 Pm To: openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de Subject: Re: [OpenBIOS] Starting Linux from the C environment Hi, "Stawnyczy, Evan" wrote: > well this was my argument in the begining, we should allow this BIOS to > support "REAL" bios calls like int 13 and int 10... if you include basic > BIOS functionality, you can allow any "decent" operating system to > startup... including LILO Ahh but if I remember back at the beginning of the list the point of openBIOS was to get rid of the BIOS calls and boot 32bit OS's in 32bit mode, the though being that most OS's don't use the BIOS calls, except when first booting..... Of course that concept can deliver a whole new selection of problems... I'll leave the rest to you .. ;-) -- Yours Matthew -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- More Computer Terminology -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Booting (as in: the computer): applying a size 16 Doc Martins to the system unit after it keeps telling you there is not enough memory to open the application. - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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RE: [OpenBIOS] where I'm at with the 440gx and reading nvram
by Wallace I. Kroeker 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

Ron, No I am just running it in RAM (Shadow ROM) right now. This uses the Loadbios (actually a modified version that checks the size and automatically adapts to the various possible image sizes... I hope to post that here next week after a little cleanup ). I was going to look into just using one of the flash programs for our chipset but someone had mentioned they had source for doing this. I will be looking into that in the next week or so and will keep you posted. Wallace > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronald G. Minnich [SMTP:rminnich@lanl.gov] > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 8:10 AM > To: 'openbios(a)freiburg.linux.de' > Subject: RE: [OpenBIOS] where I'm at with the 440gx and reading nvram > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Wallace I. Kroeker wrote: > > I am working with the 440BX chipset and have it hobbling along. > > I am having problems with the MDA getting any screen output. > > I am able to get beeps out for different keys on the keyboard > > but no character display. (Of course, this could be just the situation > to > > use Morse code :-). > > are you actually getting it to write the BIOS FLASH? what code are you > using to do that? > > thanks > ron > > - > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de > with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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RE: [OpenBIOS] Starting Linux from the C environment
by Stawnyczy, Evan 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

well this was my argument in the begining, we should allow this BIOS to support "REAL" bios calls like int 13 and int 10... if you include basic BIOS functionality, you can allow any "decent" operating system to startup... including LILO -----Original Message----- From: Winter Jörg [mailto:joerg.winter@disch-gmbh.de] Sent: January 31, 2000 10:54 Am To: openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de Subject: [OpenBIOS] Starting Linux from the C environment > ---------- > Von: Stawnyczy, Evan[SMTP:EStawnyczy@geo-logistics.com] > Antwort an: openbios(a)freiburg.linux.de > Gesendet: Montag, 31. Januar 2000 15:48 > An: openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de > Betreff: RE: [OpenBIOS] Fine. > > my understanding of lilo is that if you place it on the boot sector, you > can > load the boot sector to a point in memory (I cannot recall exactly where > right now, you can email me farther if you need to) and simply jmp to it. > Actually all boot sectors work the same way... > Basicly you are right. But lilo makes extensive use of *real* BIOS functions like int13, int10, int16, and some strange int15-shift-this-memory-to-ems function that I forgot the functioncode of. I´d rather do this in C and burn a barebone Kernel onto my Disk ... But I´m not sure if I kill my own running environment by copying a Kernel to mem at 0x10000. Furthermore I have no idea if the segment-deskriptor-setup is suitable for an immediate start of a kernel image ... I´ll try this tomorrow and keep you up to date if I succeed on this ... > eMail: mailto:Joerg.Winter@Disch-GmbH.de > > - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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RE: [OpenBIOS] ROM-Emulators
by Stawnyczy, Evan 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

the 64K limit... i'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I think you may mean real mode... not protected mode. you can look up the source code for p-mode on ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/programming/pmode <ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/programming/pmode> and look through the "jump to protected mode" portion. -----Original Message----- From: Ross [mailto:rossio@hoeftd.reno.nv.us] Sent: January 31, 2000 10:55 Am To: openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de Subject: Re: [OpenBIOS] ROM-Emulators Do anyone out there know how I can get around the 64k limit of a self booting floopy disk? I know up to 40k of data on the floppy. ---------- > From: Winter Jörg <joerg.winter(a)disch-gmbh.de> > To: openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de > Subject: [OpenBIOS] ROM-Emulators > Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 1:05 AM > > > > > ---------- > > Von: Edwin Rhodes[SMTP:edwin_rhodes@hotmail.com] > > Antwort an: openbios(a)freiburg.linux.de > > Gesendet: Montag, 31. Januar 2000 02:26 > > An: openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de > > Betreff: Re: [OpenBIOS] Fine. > > > > can i have a copy of this rom-emulator? > > thanks edwin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Winter Jörg <joerg.winter(a)disch-gmbh.de> > > To: <openbios(a)elvis.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:50 AM > > Subject: [OpenBIOS] Fine. > > > I´m sorry, but a copy of my ROM-Emulator would not be what you expext ... > > I was not talking about Software. The Emulator is a little piece of Hardware > that I bought. It is intended to be inserted into a standard 32 Pin > Jedec-Memory Socket. Then you download a 64k image via the parallel port of > any PC into this Hardware. You press reset at the board and it boots ... > well sometimes ... > > If you are interested in such an Hardware try th e following urls as a > start: > > www.hed.de (they make tools for embedded and microcontrol. I once talked to > their Boss and got the impression that they are really good!) > > www.embedded-tools.de (they have a modular Emulator called PromJet. Its able > to act like rom/ram/flash up to 16Mbit and 32Bit Words. Furthermore it can > handle operating voltages from 2 to 5V. It also has an ethernet plug ...) > > Well this is not an advertisement ... I did not test these devices but they > seem interesting to me ... > > > eMail: mailto:Joerg.Winter@Disch-GmbH.de > > > > > - > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de > with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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my sources ?
by Johan Rydberg 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

Hi! Did my sources arive to the list ? -- Johan Rydberg johan.rydberg(a)netinsight.net Net Insight AB, Sweden direct: +46-8-685 04 17 http://www.netinsight.net phone: +46-8-685 04 00 fax: +46-8-685 04 20 - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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RE: [OpenBIOS] where I'm at with the 440gx and reading nvram
by Wallace I. Kroeker 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

I am working from the OpenBIOS-0.0.2. The beep code in /Firmware/init/timer.c I modified the print code to output a different number of beeps (2 of 'a' and 6 for 'z'). The OpenBIOS code (as is) boots and then sits in a loop waiting for a character of input. Once the character arrives it trys to print it out. I have some assembler code which also produces a beep. I used it for the initial debugging of /boo/boot16/start.asm. Are you interested in this? I know someone else was asking earlier where to start in with this so here is what I've found out so far (someone can correct me if I'm wrong): 1. Download OpenBIOS.0.0.2pre1 2. Make sure you have the nasm assembler (www.web-sites.co.uk/nasm to get the latest) and Gnu C (this came with Linux) 3. At the root directory type "make config" this will make the configuration and step you through the selections for Processor, Chipset, etc. (if you go with the defaults it seems to come up for some 486 board ... this sort of seemed to work for my machine to get things started) 4. Now type make and it should make everything. Leaving you with a ROM.bin So now that you can actually get it to build you can download the LoadBIOS program and try out your BIOS from RAM (as has been discussed in other messages). The documentation directory has a very brief description of the internal structure. How about adding a new chipset? 1. Everything starts in /boot/boot16/start.asm. There is an include of chipset.inc. When you ran the configuration make you specify which chipset which is actually telling the make which directories to find things such as chipset.inc 2. First create a new chipset directory in /drivers/chipset. ( I copied ali_M1511 to create a new chipset (440BX) directory.) Comment everything out as you will eventually have to modify this for your own chipset. 3. Modify the .config to allow selection of your new chipset. 4. Modify /drivers/Config.mak and add your chipset for the make process 5. Now run make .config and make to rebuild it. It should now be using your new chipset definition. To confirm that you are compiling the correct code put in a deliberate error in your chipset assembler file. If everything is correct then you should get an error showing up in the build. You follow the same approach for your superio. Helpful books. PC Intern by Michael Tischer, Brun Jennrich The Programmer's PC Sourcebook by Thom Hogan (Seems to be of print but you might get your hands on a copy ) Hope this is of some use. Wallace > -----Original Message----- > From: James [SMTP:jvh@uclink4.berkeley.edu] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 6:39 PM > To: 'openbios(a)freiburg.linux.de' > Subject: RE: [OpenBIOS] where I'm at with the 440gx and reading nvram > > > I am working with the 440BX chipset and have it hobbling along. > > I am having problems with the MDA getting any screen output. > > I am able to get beeps out for different keys on the keyboard > > but no character display. (Of course, this could be just the situation > to > > use Morse code :-). > > What is the code to get it to beep? > - James > > > - > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de > with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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RE: [OpenBIOS] where I'm at with the 440gx and reading nvram
by Stawnyczy, Evan 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

to my understanding, they're just using a rom emulator right now. -----Original Message----- From: Ronald G. Minnich [mailto:rminnich@lanl.gov] Sent: January 31, 2000 10:10 Am To: 'openbios(a)freiburg.linux.de' Subject: RE: [OpenBIOS] where I'm at with the 440gx and reading nvram On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Wallace I. Kroeker wrote: > I am working with the 440BX chipset and have it hobbling along. > I am having problems with the MDA getting any screen output. > I am able to get beeps out for different keys on the keyboard > but no character display. (Of course, this could be just the situation to > use Morse code :-). are you actually getting it to write the BIOS FLASH? what code are you using to do that? thanks ron - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message - To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)freiburg.linux.de with 'unsubscribe openbios' in the body of the message

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