[coreboot] Source code for "Intel Firmware"

ron minnich rminnich at gmail.com
Sun Oct 7 01:24:15 CEST 2018


There are people on this list who know better than I what the most "open"
one is.

Anyone out there have some advice?

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:17 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit <
ullbeking at andrewnesbit.org> wrote:

>
> On 6 Oct 2018, at 22:17, ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It depends on what you mean by fully. If there is a so-called Mask ROM
> (i.e. initial boot program that's part of the chip itself, not replaceable,
> you can disassemble it however) and the rest of the chip is fully open,
> does that count?
>
>
> That's a good start.  In my experience, these are what I've mostly seen.
>
> Ideally I mean one where the boot loader (and payload?) are not
> proprietary.  Or that an open source boot loader could be used, preferably
> without added blobs.
>
> For my money the ARM chromebooks are still one of the best bets out there
> for messing about with ARM firmware.
>
>
> Yes, I've been looking at getting one for this very purpose, especially as
> it's already a whole, usable system.  Have you any particular
> recommendations?
>
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:30 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit <
> ullbeking at andrewnesbit.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On 6 Oct 2018, at 17:42, ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> [...]
>> >
>> > if you really want 100% open, the only real options at this point are
>> power 9, RISCV and some ARM CPUs.
>>
>> Ron, thanks for your reasoned reply and the contextual background.  I
>> believe this is important when embarking on any project with a legacy.
>>
>> I know of libre-friendly POWER9 and RISC-V options.  For example, I am
>> currently learning my way around the Talos II (which is excellent).
>> ARM-based systems have been elusive to me.
>>
>> Could you please give some examples of fully libre-friendly ARM-based
>> boards or systems?  Thanks!!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
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