[coreboot] Source code for "Intel Firmware"

Merlin Büge toni at bluenox07.de
Sun Oct 7 23:20:11 CEST 2018



On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 16:24:15 -0700
ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:

> There are people on this list who know better than I what the most
> "open" one is.
> 
> Anyone out there have some advice?

These are interesting:

Samsung Chromebook Plus (based on RK3399, not available in EU) and
Asus Chromebook R13

"ECC'17: Run upstream coreboot on an ARM Chromebook"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_9okzPeHo


Cheers, Merlin


> 
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:17 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit <
> ullbeking at andrewnesbit.org> wrote:  
> 
> >
> > On 6 Oct 2018, at 22:17, ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It depends on what you mean by fully. If there is a so-called Mask
> > ROM (i.e. initial boot program that's part of the chip itself, not
> > replaceable, you can disassemble it however) and the rest of the
> > chip is fully open, does that count?
> >
> >
> > That's a good start.  In my experience, these are what I've mostly
> > seen.
> >
> > Ideally I mean one where the boot loader (and payload?) are not
> > proprietary.  Or that an open source boot loader could be used,
> > preferably without added blobs.
> >
> > For my money the ARM chromebooks are still one of the best bets out
> > there for messing about with ARM firmware.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I've been looking at getting one for this very purpose,
> > especially as it's already a whole, usable system.  Have you any
> > particular recommendations?
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:30 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit <  
> > ullbeking at andrewnesbit.org> wrote:  
> >  
> >>  
> >> > On 6 Oct 2018, at 17:42, ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >  
> >> [...]  
> >> >
> >> > if you really want 100% open, the only real options at this
> >> > point are  
> >> power 9, RISCV and some ARM CPUs.
> >>
> >> Ron, thanks for your reasoned reply and the contextual
> >> background.  I believe this is important when embarking on any
> >> project with a legacy.
> >>
> >> I know of libre-friendly POWER9 and RISC-V options.  For example,
> >> I am currently learning my way around the Talos II (which is
> >> excellent). ARM-based systems have been elusive to me.
> >>
> >> Could you please give some examples of fully libre-friendly
> >> ARM-based boards or systems?  Thanks!!
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>  
> >  



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Merlin Büge



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