[coreboot] Source code for "Intel Firmware"
toni at bluenox07.de
Sun Oct 7 23:20:11 CEST 2018
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 16:24:15 -0700
ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:
> There are people on this list who know better than I what the most
> "open" one is.
> Anyone out there have some advice?
These are interesting:
Samsung Chromebook Plus (based on RK3399, not available in EU) and
Asus Chromebook R13
"ECC'17: Run upstream coreboot on an ARM Chromebook"
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:17 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit <
> ullbeking at andrewnesbit.org> wrote:
> > On 6 Oct 2018, at 22:17, ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It depends on what you mean by fully. If there is a so-called Mask
> > ROM (i.e. initial boot program that's part of the chip itself, not
> > replaceable, you can disassemble it however) and the rest of the
> > chip is fully open, does that count?
> > That's a good start. In my experience, these are what I've mostly
> > seen.
> > Ideally I mean one where the boot loader (and payload?) are not
> > proprietary. Or that an open source boot loader could be used,
> > preferably without added blobs.
> > For my money the ARM chromebooks are still one of the best bets out
> > there for messing about with ARM firmware.
> > Yes, I've been looking at getting one for this very purpose,
> > especially as it's already a whole, usable system. Have you any
> > particular recommendations?
> > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:30 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit <
> > ullbeking at andrewnesbit.org> wrote:
> >> > On 6 Oct 2018, at 17:42, ron minnich <rminnich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> [...]
> >> >
> >> > if you really want 100% open, the only real options at this
> >> > point are
> >> power 9, RISCV and some ARM CPUs.
> >> Ron, thanks for your reasoned reply and the contextual
> >> background. I believe this is important when embarking on any
> >> project with a legacy.
> >> I know of libre-friendly POWER9 and RISC-V options. For example,
> >> I am currently learning my way around the Talos II (which is
> >> excellent). ARM-based systems have been elusive to me.
> >> Could you please give some examples of fully libre-friendly
> >> ARM-based boards or systems? Thanks!!
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Andrew
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