[coreboot] New bugtracker/wiki registration process - please do not use freenode irc servers

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ng0 transcribed 3.7K bytes:
> Peter Stuge transcribed 1.3K bytes:
> > dz6g239 at tuta.io wrote:
> > > But please dont use freenode irc or any other IRC server that are
> > > blocking TOR users.
> > ..
> > > Net neutrality is important. Please dont move coreboot into the
> > > situation that you cant register because of broken net neutrality.
> > 
> > This is a good point, thanks for bringing it up.
> > 
> > 
> > Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> > > https://freenode.net/kb/answer/chat contradicts your claims.
> > 
> > Quoting that page, "The hidden service requires SASL authentication."
> > 
> > Requiring authentication clearly goes against the spirit of both Tor
> > and net neutrality; so depending on freenode services to authenticate
> > contributions turns out to be a bad idea.
> > 
> > But handling spam takes effort, which in turn takes (time || money),
> > and there is no technical one-shot solution. At a minimum it requires
> > recurring engineering on the order of a few days every few months.
> > 
> > There is indeed a tradeoff here, between accessibility and cost.
> 
> At secushare we are using psyced (a visible implementation of the PSYC 0.99/1 protocol
> is running at psyed.org for almost 2 decades now) as a daily chat server,
> accessible via webchat, irc, ircs, telnet, xmpp, etc through tor
> and through "clearnet".
> Through my time spend on various IRC centric networks I have found
> no better solution, IRC is fundamentally broken.
> The mufhd0 network which A/I (Autistici/Inventati) runs requires no
> checks for tor users, aswell as the hackint network (or at least they
> used to, no idea what hackint is doing these days), and psyced.org.
> There are some more networks and servers like this, but their number is
> small.

Please disregard my comment, I've re-read the original post.

> > I would like a two-tier system of authenticated reviewers like on Wikipedia
> > very much, and as a minimum-effort one-shot solution I think that would last
> > the longest time, but it still needs to be implemented.
> > 
> > Wiki admins: Would that need more effort than IRC integration?
> > 
> > 
> > //Peter
> > 
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