[SeaBIOS] [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/5] docs: update documentation considering PCIE-PCI bridge
Marcel Apfelbaum
marcel at redhat.com
Wed Aug 2 16:21:22 CEST 2017
On 02/08/2017 17:16, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 08/02/17 15:47, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 12:23:46AM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>> On 08/01/17 23:39, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 12:33:12AM +0300, Alexander Bezzubikov wrote:
>>>>> 2017-08-01 23:31 GMT+03:00 Laszlo Ersek <lersek at redhat.com>:
>>>>>> (Whenever my comments conflict with Michael's or Marcel's, I defer to them.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/29/17 01:37, Aleksandr Bezzubikov wrote:
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Aleksandr Bezzubikov <zuban32s at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> docs/pcie.txt | 46 ++++++++++--------
>>>>>>> docs/pcie_pci_bridge.txt | 121 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 147 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>>>>>> create mode 100644 docs/pcie_pci_bridge.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/docs/pcie.txt b/docs/pcie.txt
>>>>>>> index 5bada24..338b50e 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/docs/pcie.txt
>>>>>>> +++ b/docs/pcie.txt
>>>>>>> @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ Place only the following kinds of devices directly on the Root Complex:
>>>>>>> (2) PCI Express Root Ports (ioh3420), for starting exclusively PCI Express
>>>>>>> hierarchies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - (3) DMI-PCI Bridges (i82801b11-bridge), for starting legacy PCI
>>>>>>> + (3) PCIE-PCI Bridge (pcie-pci-bridge), for starting legacy PCI
>>>>>>> hierarchies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (4) Extra Root Complexes (pxb-pcie), if multiple PCI Express Root Buses
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When reviewing previous patches modifying / adding this file, I
>>>>>> requested that we spell out "PCI Express" every single time. I'd like to
>>>>>> see the same in this patch, if possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I didn't know it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @@ -55,18 +55,18 @@ Place only the following kinds of devices directly on the Root Complex:
>>>>>>> pcie.0 bus
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> | | | |
>>>>>>> - ----------- ------------------ ------------------ --------------
>>>>>>> - | PCI Dev | | PCIe Root Port | | DMI-PCI Bridge | | pxb-pcie |
>>>>>>> - ----------- ------------------ ------------------ --------------
>>>>>>> + ----------- ------------------ ------------------- --------------
>>>>>>> + | PCI Dev | | PCIe Root Port | | PCIE-PCI Bridge | | pxb-pcie |
>>>>>>> + ----------- ------------------ ------------------- --------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2.1.1 To plug a device into pcie.0 as a Root Complex Integrated Endpoint use:
>>>>>>> -device <dev>[,bus=pcie.0]
>>>>>>> 2.1.2 To expose a new PCI Express Root Bus use:
>>>>>>> -device pxb-pcie,id=pcie.1,bus_nr=x[,numa_node=y][,addr=z]
>>>>>>> - Only PCI Express Root Ports and DMI-PCI bridges can be connected
>>>>>>> + Only PCI Express Root Ports, PCIE-PCI bridges and DMI-PCI bridges can be connected
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice if we could keep the flowing text wrapped to 80 chars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, here you add the "PCI Express-PCI" bridge to the list of allowed
>>>>>> controllers (and you keep DMI-PCI as permitted), but above DMI was
>>>>>> replaced. I think these should be made consistent -- we should make up
>>>>>> our minds if we continue to recommend the DMI-PCI bridge or not. If not,
>>>>>> then we should eradicate all traces of it. If we want to keep it at
>>>>>> least for compatibility, then it should remain as fully documented as it
>>>>>> is now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm beginning to think that we shouldn't keep the DMI-PCI bridge
>>>>> even for compatibility and may want to use a new PCIE-PCI bridge
>>>>> everywhere (of course, except some cases when users are
>>>>> sure they need exactly DMI-PCI bridge for some reason)
>>>>
>>>> Can dmi-pci support shpc? why doesn't it? For compatibility?
>>>
>>> I don't know why, but the fact that it doesn't is the reason libvirt
>>> settled on auto-creating a dmi-pci bridge and a pci-pci bridge under
>>> that for Q35. The reasoning was (IIRC Laine's words correctly) that the
>>> dmi-pci bridge cannot receive hotplugged devices, while the pci-pci
>>> bridge cannot be connected to the root complex. So both were needed.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Laszlo
>>
>> OK. Is it true that dmi-pci + pci-pci under it will allow hotplug
>> on Q35 if we just flip the bit in _OSC?
>
> Marcel, what say you?... :)
>
Will test and get back to you (it may actually work)
Thanks,
Marcel
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