[OpenBIOS] Re: boy is EFI a kludge!

Ronald G Minnich rminnich at lanl.gov
Tue Aug 28 11:38:20 CEST 2001

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Gavin Robert Brewer wrote:

> Yes it has. Are we not looking at booting Linux straight from power-up?

No we are not, at least not in openbios. openbios boots into forth from
power up. From there it can boot Plan 9 for all we care.

> LinuxBIOS should go one step further, in my view. It should just be a
> very basic set of primitives which call up the bootloader, perhaps even
> integrating the bootloader into itself. Think laterally for a moment...

We already did. You are about two years behind in your thinking. And
you're on the wrong list. Plus we use linux as the bootloader in linuxbios.
Or etherboot. Or lots of stuff, any elf image will do. AND THIS DISCUSSION

> Who knows? perhaps even the Kernel image may become burnt into EEPROM
> and distributed as part of an embedded solution for industry. Then
> LinuxBIOS would no longer be BIOS, but something far more integrated.

been there, done that. See the linuxbios web page. You can buy products
that do this today (www.linuxlabs.com). They're using our stuff.
You need to do a wider survey.

> Wait. Stop & Think. Engage imagination chip. (Seldom used amongst calif.
> techies):
> You store the messages in RAM. After the disk is mounted, you then
> scribble the data direct from ram to a log-file on disc. Easy.

Think it through some more, and you'll see why that idea sucks. Course
I've done that too, but that's another story.

you really need a better email persona. You really need to figure out what
you're talking about a bit before you talk. You really need to stop
slandering people because they live in ca. or might be a techie.

Just cut the nonsense, do a bit of reading about where the various
projects are, then come back with some new ideas. I haven't seen any yet.

And, please stick to the openbios topic, which is implementing Open
Firmware in a GPL way. Or let people subscribe to Eric mailing list and
talk there -- you're wasting bandwidth on this list. If you don't like
that, just unsubscribe.


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