<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">todthgie</b> <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Corey Osgood" <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>><br>To: "Darmawan Salihun" <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">
email@example.com</a>><br>Cc: "linuxbios" <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 00:07<br>Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] [RFC] Call for Action: LinuxBIOS foundations
<br><br><br>> Darmawan Salihun wrote:<br>>> On 8/29/07, *Uwe Hermann* <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>
>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> The real problems (in my view) are:<br>>><br>>> 1. Lack of developers<br>>> 2. Lack of time<br>>> 3. Lack of proper datasheets (for some/many chipsets)
<br>>><br>>> Issue 2 cannot be solved easily, issue 3 depends on many factors<br>>> we usually cannot influence a lot, but issue 1 is where we can<br>>> get the biggest gain, IMHO.<br>>>
<br>>><br>>> I wonder if clean-room reverse engineering on commercial BIOS that comes<br>>> with the board can help for case 3 because most of them have a "generic"<br>>> code to boot the machine until preliminary RAM test. Personally, I
<br>>> view it<br>>> as a *very interesting* challenge.<br>><br>> Very interesting, yes, but that routes directly back to problem 1. More<br>> developers could lead the creation of a separate project with that goal
<br>> in mind, but for now everyone's working with what they have. If we had<br>> more people/time, such things might be feasible and very beneficial.<br><br>suggestion: make a tool based that emits a trace of whats going on ...
<br>i would suggest first making a tool for extracting award flash enables....<br><br>-Todthgie</blockquote><div><br>I think it's not too hard. I would need to create an IDA Pro plugin or <br>IDA Python script that can search for the binary signatures that of interest.
<br>I have some preliminary code for different task that I think can be used for <br>that once I'm working on it ;-). It may be just too premature to talk about it <br>right now.<br> <br><br> </div></div>Regards,<br>
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