[coreboot] Coreboot Purism BIOS is free? open?
damemasporfavor at gmail.com
Mon Dec 18 10:07:26 CET 2017
I want implement Coreboot for current 7th and 8th generation Intel
And if the Pursism BIOS was opensource, I could work with it as a base. However
I can not find the source code to work with him.
I like GNU/Linux and the opensource because among all we do it better, but
if the code is not liberated, I can not speak well of Purism.
2017-12-18 6:01 GMT+01:00 Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier at gmail.com>:
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Taiidan at gmx.com <Taiidan at gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 12/17/2017 05:06 PM, Dame Más wrote:
>>> The Coreboot BIOS of Purism 13 is open?
>> No it isn't, while they do use coreboot the silicon init process is
>> entirely blobbed.
>> Technical merits - is it better than an off the shelf dell laptop? Of
>> course, but not better enough to justify even a $30 premium let alone the
>> thousands they are charging for a whitebox re-brand.
>> It removes the brander (ex: dell) from the firmware trust equation but
>> intel still remains and so does ME.
> That's a pretty absurd exaggeration. Purism laptops certainly sell at a
> premium relative to a Dell (eg) with similar CPU/RAM/SSD, but they don't
> sell anywhere near the same volume, so their costs are higher. They also
> feature hardware kill switches for wifi/BT and mic/webcam, ship with a
> blob-free Debian-based distro, and use coreboot with a disable/neutered
> ME. Whether or not you consider those qualities, and supporting a startup
> working towards increasing owner control on modern hardware, to justify the
> price premium is certainly a valid point of discussion.
>> If I was you I would purchase a different coreboot compatible laptop then
>> compile and install coreboot while running me_cleaner yourself - this will
>> provide a better result for a lot less money as these following laptops
>> feature open source silicon init and in the case of the intel models are
>> pre-skylake so more of ME can be "cleaned".
>> One of these laptops is $200 max for one in good condition, vs thousands
>> for a Purism 13 - with the cash you save you can also buy a KCMA-D8 gaming
>> computer for libre gaming in a VM or otherwise.
> "better" certainly depends on how one ranks the various qualities of a
> given device. If owner-controller trumps all other considerations,
> then certainly there are "better" options, but you're not going to find
> anything for $200 that is anywhere close in terms of weight, battery life,
> screen quality, or using a modern SoC -- that's the tradeoff, and again
> something that's worth discussion, but framing it in the context of paying
> "thousands" for a Purism device vs $200 for something of equal/better
> capability is dishonest and does a disservice to the entire community IMO.
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