[coreboot] TALOS project short of funding goals - where to now?

Zoran Stojsavljevic zoran.stojsavljevic at gmail.com
Wed Dec 14 21:07:52 CET 2016

> The coreboot project is pretty much dead in the water without it, *the
only real choices for further development are either*
*>  super low power crappy ARM devices* or always going to be expensive
IBM/TYAN POWER servers, so what do we do?

What is wrong with "super low power crappy ARM devices"? Do you realize
that almost ALL Qualcomm/Mediatek/Samsung ARM SoCs for Android smart phones
are falling in this category? Or maybe not? And do you know that 99.999% of
this "crappy" devices are using U-Boot? U-Boot out of (these days) DENX
Software Engineering GmbH (Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk)?

BTW what is your definition of: *"super low power crappy ARM devices"* ???

Floor all yours! :-)

Thank you,

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Taiidan at gmx.com <Taiidan at gmx.com> wrote:

> I am incredibly sad that TALOS has not gotten the required cash flow,
> short of a miracle in the next few days.
> The coreboot project is pretty much dead in the water without it, the only
> real choices for further development are either super low power crappy ARM
> devices or always going to be expensive IBM/TYAN POWER servers, so what do
> we do?
> I am wondering, how come they didn't bark up some government or corporate
> trees for TALOS funding? AFIAK there are various government agencies
> interested in secure hardware and assured computing; I have always wondered
> what the NSA uses for their own computing needs, maybe they paid intel for
> firmware source code and a system that doesn't need ME to run.
> The way things are going:
> +10 years - Microsoft and Intel have announced the "PrivaSec" initiative,
> aimed at producing a secure vertically intergrated computing platform where
> firmware agents prohibit the execution of unapproved programs - protecting
> your data from unauthorized access.
> +20 years - We're sorry, but the GlobeX Trade Agreement and the Secure
> Communities act of 2035 prohibit the viewing, copying or transmission of
> this file - Further violations may result in fine, arrest and or the
> revocation of your work permit and internet operators license.
> Thoughts:
> It seems that so many linux people just don't really care about libre
> anything, considering that the average linux sysadmin makes over $100K per
> year the community could have easily funded the project.
> These days there are a lot more people with skills, but without the
> computer enthusiast/hacker culture of the 90's, the kind of hypocritical
> people who use a macbook, facebook, etc but who chide me for saying that
> working for the government is not at all immoral.
> If I wasn't unemployed I would happily pay $5K for a high performance
> libre computer, but not everyone is me.
> People went nuts for the faux libre purism laptop but talos gets hardly
> any comparative publicity/hype - why? - "We'll get intel to open up ME one
> day, we promise!"
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