[linuxbios]RE: flash_n_burn rom utils, /dev/bios ... resquest

[Chris]

> >
> > I am not saying it is, just that when you view the subject
> lines they often
> > appear like subjects designed to foil filtering systems
>
> Subject lines are for humans the other headers are for machines.
>

I have given up on filters. Dont trust them to do the job. so I use them to
pick the obvious spam
then the remaining emails get scanned by trusty human eye and brain for the
final decision.

Unfortunately some of the very cryptic subject lines appear to be spam so I
tossed the first few until I realised my mistake.
(bugger does that make me as reliable as spam filters)

I will try the list-id header. and mark it as friendly if it has it.


> Re: [linuxbios] Re: [linuxbios]

If the list server placed the tag in it wouldn't be a problem and no-one
would have to type it
the list server can delete any redundant tags and then forward the mail


>
> As for adding numbers for general categories that is just silly.  If
> you want to describe what is going on feel free to add:  [IDEA] or
> [PATCH] or whatever.  Enumerations with numerical values are just
> silly when they are for human consumption.

not really its just shorter to read and write, with only 6 choices the ASRG
works very well

> The next logical step is
> to progress forward to writing programs in machine code to give more
> control so they are not susceptible to viruses.
>

now your just being really silly

Regards
Chris




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric W. Biederman [mailto:eric at lnxi.com]On Behalf Of Eric W.
> Biederman
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 3:03 PM
> To: Chris
> Cc: John Usher (Maptek); linuxbios at clustermatic.org
> Subject: Re: flash_n_burn rom utils, /dev/bios ... resquest
>
>
> "Chris" <linuxbios at rebel.com.au> writes:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I am new to this group and currently in the lurk stage
> >
> > but can I pass a comment/suggestion.
> >
> > I get a huge amount of spam, and on a cursory glance a lot of
> the mail from
> > this group "appears" spammy
> >
> > I am not saying it is, just that when you view the subject
> lines they often
> > appear like subjects designed to foil filtering systems
>
> Subject lines are for humans the other headers are for machines.
>
> > can I suggest a standard element be placed in the subject line such as I
> > have done
> >
> > that way it will be easier to seperate the linux bios mailings
> from the spam
> > mailings
>
> Look at the List-Id: that should be completely constant.  That is what
> I filter by and it makes it trivial.  I filter not to get rid of spam
> but to separate the LinuxBIOS mailing list traffic and the linux
> kernel mailing list traffic etc.
>
> If you want something practically spoof proof ask for the mailing
> list to gpg sign messages.  Then you can be certain the message
> at least came from the mailing list.
>
> I have not seen any spam come through this mailing list.  Or even
> spoofed as such.
>
> If you really want to stop spam.  Don't concentrate on the fact
> that it is unwanted mail.  Concentrate on the fact that it is
> bulk mail, and that it is generally fraudulent.  Detecting mail is
> passing in bulk or that it does not have a legitimate source do not
> sound like hard problems.
>
> > I am also a member of the ASRG "Anti Spam Research Group" and they use a
> > system that looks like this
> >
> > subject: [ASRG] 3: description
> >
> > the number is for pre-organised topics such as 0 = general 1 = new ideas
> > etc...
>
> Things like that get extremely ugly when you cross post,
> or the mailing system does not recognize your Re: line
> so you get things like:
>
> Re: [linuxbios] Re: [linuxbios]
> or:
> Re: [linuxbios] RE: flash_n_burn rom utils, /dev/bios, ... resquest
>
> And we have a diverse enough crowd we don't get consistent recognition
> of the Re: line anyway.  Yhlu I think posts with Chinese character
> set which makes things interesting.
>
> Hacked subject lines just clutter up things up.
>
> As for adding numbers for general categories that is just silly.  If
> you want to describe what is going on feel free to add:  [IDEA] or
> [PATCH] or whatever.  Enumerations with numerical values are just
> silly when they are for human consumption.  The next logical step is
> to progress forward to writing programs in machine code to give more
> control so they are not susceptible to viruses.
>
> Eric
>
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