I just came across this project at SourceForge:
Talkware TIARA, an Openbios/GRUB/PFORTH composite, BIOS replacement. Boots an unmodifed linux kernel from an IDE drive or ethernet, using only 128kb of flash. Works with INTEL/AMD K6/2-450, SiS 530/5595 and 8139 enet. VGA & Serial console supported.
and was wondering if anybody had heard of it?
It got me thinking that maybe all of the free bios developers (this project, freebios, openbios, linuxbios) should get together and collaborate on features. This way there would be more developers, which could mean accelerated development, better features, and more testing.
Also, I would like to thank all of the people who work on these projects now, because a free/open source bios is something we all really need.
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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, gram wilson wrote:
Talkware TIARA, an Openbios/GRUB/PFORTH composite, BIOS replacement.
and was wondering if anybody had heard of it?
I've heard of it. I plan to use some of their code for init purposes, I think.
It got me thinking that maybe all of the free bios developers (this project, freebios, openbios, linuxbios) should get together and collaborate on features. This way there would be more developers, which could mean accelerated development, better features, and more testing.
the thing is, linuxbios is not a bios in the sense of the others. our goal is to boot linux fast, and let it do the work. We don't care if you can't run dos.
I do think that openbios should be picking up on some of the freebios and other work. There is too much assembly in openbios for my taste.
ron
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gram wilson wrote:
I just came across this project at SourceForge:
Talkware TIARA, an Openbios/GRUB/PFORTH composite, BIOS replacement. Boots an unmodifed linux kernel from an IDE drive or ethernet, using only 128kb of flash. Works with INTEL/AMD K6/2-450, SiS 530/5595 and 8139 enet. VGA & Serial console supported.and was wondering if anybody had heard of it?
It got me thinking that maybe all of the free bios developers (this project, freebios, openbios, linuxbios) should get together and collaborate on features. This way there would be more developers, which could mean accelerated development, better features, and more testing.
Also, I would like to thank all of the people who work on these projects now, because a free/open source bios is something we all really need.
Hi!
linuxbios is now working out of FreeBIOS cvs. I started FreeBIOS mainly because of the lack of updates from the OpenBIOS project. I agree we should all get together and merge features. Note that we not only need a common codebase, but a very flexible one as well. linuxbios seeks to be just enough to boot the Linux kernel, without needing to initialize much more than the DRAM and mobo chipset. Tiara and OpenBIOS seek to be much larger BIOSen.
Jeff
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:59:09 -0600 (MDT), Ronald G Minnich wrote:
I do think that openbios should be picking up on some of the freebios and other work. There is too much assembly in openbios for my taste.
You mean there *is* an OpenBIOS project? I'm actually subscribed to the OpenBIOS project, and the *only* e-mails I've seen are regarding LinuxBIOS...
I'm not complaining, but I didn't know that development was still being done on OpenBIOS. Maybe something is wrong on my end?
Tim Massey
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Ronald G Minnich wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, gram wilson wrote:
Talkware TIARA, an Openbios/GRUB/PFORTH composite, BIOS replacement.and was wondering if anybody had heard of it?
I've heard of it. I plan to use some of their code for init purposes, I think.
It got me thinking that maybe all of the free bios developers (this project, freebios, openbios, linuxbios) should get together and collaborate on features. This way there would be more developers, which could mean accelerated development, better features, and more testing.
the thing is, linuxbios is not a bios in the sense of the others. our goal is to boot linux fast, and let it do the work. We don't care if you can't run dos.
I do think that openbios should be picking up on some of the freebios and other work. There is too much assembly in openbios for my taste.
ron
As in linux you may or not compile certain modules into the kernel to make it faster a smaller, I think a modularized project would address all the needs and give more value to the whole software.
Together all the free/linux/open-BIOS developer may do a better job.
I guess a lot of people are going to say that linuxbios is different from the others. This is true. The way I thought that we could incorporate this is to use code from the Linux kernel for some of the drivers in OpenBIOS/FreeBIOS/TIARA. For instance the direct access PCI code, the PCI IDE driver, SCSI drivers, USB drivers, and other essential code for booting. We could also look to *BSD for code.
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