Why start over ( was Re: Starting over; how would you do it?)
Hi Richard, opening a new thread. Let's not derail the existing one before anything was discussed ;) On 19.11.22 21:18, Richard Hughes wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 17:17, Nico Huber <nico.h@gmx.de> wrote:
I've been thinking more and more about returning to a stable flashrom branch lately
I'm missing the "why".
To get back to work. To create something sustainable. As you and many others suggest, I also would like to have a branch that can be kept in a releasable state. First, we need a branch that is in a releasable state. You may have missed the decisions around the 1.3.x branch. The idea seems to be to clean things up on that release branch and for the time being do nothing about the open issues on the master branch. To me that's yet another sign that the current master branch is at a dead end. Nico
On Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 13:50 Nico Huber <nico.h@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi Richard,
opening a new thread. Let's not derail the existing one before anything was discussed ;)
On 19.11.22 21:18, Richard Hughes wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 17:17, Nico Huber <nico.h@gmx.de> wrote:
I've been thinking more and more about returning to a stable flashrom branch lately
I'm missing the "why".
To get back to work. To create something sustainable. As you and many others suggest, I also would like to have a branch that can be kept in a releasable state. First, we need a branch that is in a releasable state.
You may have missed the decisions around the 1.3.x branch. The idea seems to be to clean things up on that release branch and for the time being do nothing about the open issues on the master branch. To me that's yet another sign that the current master branch is at a dead end.
I think I will advise Patrick to create a separate "flashrom-stable" repository that will start out as a copy of the flashrom repository. In this repository you will be able to reboot to flashrom 1.2 and decide what constitutes stability metrics, pace and direction as you see fit. Stefan
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On 20.11.22 00:16, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
On Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 13:50 Nico Huber <nico.h@gmx.de> wrote:
On 19.11.22 21:18, Richard Hughes wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 17:17, Nico Huber <nico.h@gmx.de> wrote:
I've been thinking more and more about returning to a stable flashrom branch lately
I'm missing the "why".
To get back to work. To create something sustainable. As you and many others suggest, I also would like to have a branch that can be kept in a releasable state. First, we need a branch that is in a releasable state.
You may have missed the decisions around the 1.3.x branch. The idea seems to be to clean things up on that release branch and for the time being do nothing about the open issues on the master branch. To me that's yet another sign that the current master branch is at a dead end.
I think I will advise Patrick to create a separate "flashrom-stable" repository that will start out as a copy of the flashrom repository. In this repository you will be able to reboot to flashrom 1.2 and decide what constitutes stability metrics, pace and direction as you see fit.
That's not what I want. I see no need to rush things. Nico
Hi all, On 20.11.22 11:32, Nico Huber wrote:
On 20.11.22 00:16, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
I think I will advise Patrick to create a separate "flashrom-stable" repository that will start out as a copy of the flashrom repository. In this repository you will be able to reboot to flashrom 1.2 and decide what constitutes stability metrics, pace and direction as you see fit.
That's not what I want. I see no need to rush things.
I was angry about this proposition at first. Because it felt like it's setting the fission in stone. But right now I'm tired of waiting. As there is nobody who wants to discuss complementing branches, another branch might as well live in another repository. This would also raise some more questions about other shared resources, e.g. this mailing list and the wiki. I wouldn't have any trouble sharing, but I know others see it as too confusing. So we'd have to talk about such things. Stefan, if your offer still stands, please tell Patrick to go ahead. Nico
Hello,
This would also raise some more questions about other shared resources, e.g. this mailing list and the wiki. I wouldn't have any trouble sharing, but I know others see it as too confusing. So we'd have to talk about such things.
Yes, I thought about the mailing list too. It does seem like flashrom-stable will have different strategy / direction, and some of the aspects do not overlap with current flashrom. Could also be different guidelines for contributors, different design discussions etc etc. I think it would be way more clear for subscribers of mailing list(s) to have a separate mailing list for each. People can choose to subscribe to both, or to one of them - and get relevant information. So I think what’s called the “offer” in this thread, should include both flashrom-stable repository and flashrom-stable mailing list. Of course if Stefan agrees on that? -- Anastasia.
Hi On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:01 PM Anastasia Klimchuk <aklm@chromium.org> wrote:
Hello,
This would also raise some more questions about other shared resources, e.g. this mailing list and the wiki. I wouldn't have any trouble sharing, but I know others see it as too confusing. So we'd have to talk about such things.
Yes, I thought about the mailing list too. It does seem like flashrom-stable will have different strategy / direction, and some of the aspects do not overlap with current flashrom. Could also be different guidelines for contributors, different design discussions etc etc. I think it would be way more clear for subscribers of mailing list(s) to have a separate mailing list for each. People can choose to subscribe to both, or to one of them - and get relevant information.
So I think what’s called the “offer” in this thread, should include both flashrom-stable repository and flashrom-stable mailing list. Of course if Stefan agrees on that?
Apologies for chiming in late. I think this is the right path forward and we should do it like that. I think it is a great opportunity to get the best of all worlds into flashrom and spark innovation and velocity. Stefan
-- Anastasia.
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