Looking for INTEL board compatible with Coreboot

Hello,

on FreeBSD forum there was a discussion about
"FreeBSD friendly Motherboard compatible with Coreboot"

link:
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-friendly-motherboard-compatible-w...

the INTEL boards compatible with Coreboot seems to be:
- Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
- Asrock E350M1

does anyone know better options?

another question still looking for answer:
using flashrom if you type:
-L | --list-supported print supported devices

it says:
Supported flash chips (total: 391):

can someone check output and tell which are the best boards?

Thanks

[Petr Cvek]

Dne 31. 10. 19 v 18:20 phakt--- via coreboot napsal(a):
> Hello,
>
> on FreeBSD forum there was a discussion about
> "FreeBSD friendly Motherboard compatible with Coreboot"
>
> link:
> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-friendly-motherboard-compatible-w...
>
> the INTEL boards compatible with Coreboot seems to be:
> Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
> Asrock E350M1
>
> does anyone know better options?

Hi,

There are more boards than just two. You can just grep src/mainboard for "intel" strings or src/northbridge/intel as quick and dirty solution :-D.

Writing from corebooted Kontron 986lcd-m (but core2duo is slow).

Petr
> another question still looking for answer:
> using flashrom if you type:
> -L | --list-supported print supported devices
>
> it says:
> Supported flash chips (total: 391):
>
> can someone check output and tell which are the best boards?
>
> Thanks
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> There are more boards than just two.

which ones? 
can you tell more about the others?
whats the board with best quality-price ratio?
any board that has good performance for economic budget?

where to buy? 
do you recommend new or refurbished?

Thanks

[Mike Banon]

Why are you considering only Intel boards? coreboot supports plenty of
AMD boards which don't contain ME/PSP and don't suffer from Meltdown +
some other Intel-only vulnerabilities, for which the
performance-crippling patches are required. IMHO, AMD seems to be a
wiser choice for a coreboot board, unless you already have some
Intel-supported board (so no additional expenses for getting one)

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 12:32 AM phakt--- via coreboot
 wrote:
> > There are more boards than just two.
>
> which ones?
> can you tell more about the others?
> whats the board with best quality-price ratio?
> any board that has good performance for economic budget?
>
> where to buy?
> do you recommend new or refurbished?
>
> Thanks
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> coreboot mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

> Why are you considering only Intel boards?

which ones have best performance?
AMD or INTEL?

there is any motherboard supplier Coreboot friendly?
any articles that show tested boards?

Thanks

[Angel Pons]

Hi,

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:20 PM phakt--- via coreboot
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on FreeBSD forum there was a discussion about
> "FreeBSD friendly Motherboard compatible with Coreboot"
>
> link:
> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-friendly-motherboard-compatible-w...
>
> the INTEL boards compatible with Coreboot seems to be:
> Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
> Asrock E350M1

Um, the Asrock E350M1 uses AMD hardware...

There are many more supported Intel-based boards. The board status
page has a list of supported boards:

https://coreboot.org/status/board-status.html

Note that this list is not exhaustive: it does not include variants.
These are similar boards which share most of the code. For instance,
there are two subfolders inside
"src/mainboard/gigabyte/ga-h61m-s2pv/variants/", which are the
Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2PV and the GA-H61MA-D3V. Note that the latter does
not appear in the board status.

The "latest known good" for many of these boards is not updated. This
does not mean that the boards do not work, but rather that nobody
bothered to upload a board status update for it.
> does anyone know better options?

I don't know which needs you have. I'd suggest taking a look at the
supported boards (now that you have a more complete list) and picking
the one that would best suit you. Additionally, since most of my
boards come out of e-waste heaps, I have no clue about pricing and
quality.
> another question still looking for answer:
> using flashrom if you type:
> -L | --list-supported print supported devices
>
> it says:
> Supported flash chips (total: 391):
>
> can someone check output and tell which are the best boards?

flashrom should work fine with most, if not all supported boards.
However, some boards restrict internal flashing (flashing from within
the board itself), so you might need an external programmer.
> Thanks

Best regards,

Angel Pons

> There are many more supported Intel-based boards

where can i get a list of all Intel-based boards supported?
which boards people prefer and refer as generic boards that usually work?
any preference based on statistics?
> Additionally, since most of my

boards come out of e-waste heaps, I have no clue about pricing and
quality.

besides e-waste where can i get a cheap board?
any reference supplier that people recommend for new and refurbished?

is it possible to buy "bare-boards" with only the basic components?
> flashrom should work fine with most, if not all supported boards.

However, some boards restrict internal flashing (flashing from within
the board itself), so you might need an external programmer.

any board that doesn't require internal flashing that is cheap and easy to purchase?

Thanks

[Mike Banon]

> which ones have best performance? AMD or INTEL?

If this ME/PSP thing matters to you, AMD no-PSP usually have a better
performance than Intel no-ME, but Intel with-ME could have a better
performance than AMD no-PSP. It all depends on which boards you are
comparing between each other. Try to find out how good is the
availability of various coreboot boards to you, then compare their
performance.
> there is any motherboard supplier Coreboot friendly?

There are some manufacturers, i.e. Purism, which are shipping new
devices with coreboot preinstalled, but their price of course is
higher than for something pulled out of e-waste, and the performance
may be still comparable.
> where can i get a list? where can i get a cheap board? which boards people prefer, any preference based on statistics?

no-one has the statistics on coreboot installation. If you want a
good-supported board, check the board status page, choose a board with
a fresh good board status report and read about the known problems on
the mailing list before getting one.
> is it possible to buy "bare-boards" with only the basic components?

no

external flashing is not hard so not sure why you are trying to avoid it.

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 1:43 PM phakt--- via coreboot
 wrote:
> > There are many more supported Intel-based boards
>
> where can i get a list of all Intel-based boards supported?
> which boards people prefer and refer as generic boards that usually work?
> any preference based on statistics?
> > Additionally, since most of my
>
> boards come out of e-waste heaps, I have no clue about pricing and
> quality.
>
> besides e-waste where can i get a cheap board?
> any reference supplier that people recommend for new and refurbished?
>
> is it possible to buy "bare-boards" with only the basic components?
> > flashrom should work fine with most, if not all supported boards.
>
> However, some boards restrict internal flashing (flashing from within
> the board itself), so you might need an external programmer.
>
> any board that doesn't require internal flashing that is cheap and easy to purchase?
>
> Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> coreboot mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

> There are some manufacturers, i.e. Purism, which are shipping new
> devices with coreboot preinstalled, but their price of course is
> higher than for something pulled out of e-waste, and the performance
> may be still comparable.

Looks like this manufacturers are commercial and their prices are higher..
there is any supplier that sell boards new or refurbished that are easy and quick to flash?
> no-one has the
> statistics on coreboot installation. If you want a
> good-supported board, check the board status page, choose a board >with
> a fresh good board status report and read about the known problems >on
> the mailing list before getting one.

can you tell me a few good boards with a fresh status?
the single boards and mini PC have good performance compared to desktop boards?
which kind of boards can be considered the best and why?
which CPU has good performance like the intel I-series?

Thanks

BUMP

can someone elaborate?

BUMP

can someone answer:
> can you tell me a few good boards with a fresh status?
> the single boards and mini PC have good performance compared >to desktop boards?
> which kind of boards can be considered the best and why?
> which CPU has good performance like the intel I-series?

Thank you

[Mike Banon]

> can you tell me a few good boards with a fresh status?

check it at https://coreboot.org/status/board-status.html
> the single boards and mini PC have good performance compared to desktop boards?

Check the boards at "Mini-ITX / Micro-ITX / Nano-ITX" category of a
page above, and their performance at cpubenchmark website, and try to
find them if you're satisfied with their compared performance.
> which kind of boards can be considered the best and why?

It depends on what you are considering the best: best performance at
cpubenchmark or best support (amount of working features, quality of
commits, fresh board status, etc.)
> which CPU has good performance like the intel I-series?

not all the "intel I-series" CPUs have a good performance, far from
that. For example, those "Intel Core" with a U letter at the end,
could have a lower power consumption, but their performance is at
least one level lower: i7-****U is like a "honest i5", i5-****U is
like a "honest i3", and i3-****U is more like Pentium or Celeron. Use
some benchmark website for your own judgement.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:26 AM phakt--- via coreboot
 wrote:
> BUMP
>
> can someone answer:
> > can you tell me a few good boards with a fresh status?
> > the single boards and mini PC have good performance compared >to desktop boards?
> > which kind of boards can be considered the best and why?
> > which CPU has good performance like the intel I-series?
>
> Thank you
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