On Monday, March 24, 2014 10:36:27 PM David Hendricks wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mrnuke mr.nuke.me@gmail.com wrote:
Chose the hardware. Set up a github temporary fork. Send me the hardware. I got Pomona, I got SPI, I got USB debug, and I got the burning desire to make this happen.
I like your attitude. See if there's a laptop that looks doable in the ~$500 range, buy two of 'em, and tell me how to reimburse you.
I like your attitude too. I've started developing a Candidacy page [1]. I won't start fiddling hardware or funds until a consensus is reached as to the best option.
There's an interesting trend with these ProBooks. In November, when I got my chromebook, there was only one ProBook with AMD CPU available IIRC. Now there are a number of such models. That may indicate we can expect those to be on the market for a while, or I'm just remembering wrong and those have less than a year of shelf life remaining.
Anyone has any experience with the AMD ProBooks? Are they built to last, or are they crap?
Alex
Just one thing. Don't underestimate just how miserable the EC can make your life. I place a high premium on systems with an open EC. Just be careful there.
ron
Anyone has any experience with the AMD ProBooks? Are they built to last, or are they crap?
I have a HP ProBook (6465b, I think) with a Llano APU. The fan can become a bit loud but apart from that it is quite good.
Ole
what kind of EC? and other questions ...
ron
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Niels Ole Salscheider < niels_ole@salscheider-online.de> wrote:
Anyone has any experience with the AMD ProBooks? Are they built to last,
or
are they crap?
I have a HP ProBook (6465b, I think) with a Llano APU. The fan can become a bit loud but apart from that it is quite good.
Ole
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Am 25.03.2014 18:44 schrieb mrnuke:
I like your attitude too. I've started developing a Candidacy page [1]. I won't start fiddling hardware or funds until a consensus is reached as to the best option.
There's an interesting trend with these ProBooks. In November, when I got my chromebook, there was only one ProBook with AMD CPU available IIRC. Now there are a number of such models. That may indicate we can expect those to be on the market for a while, or I'm just remembering wrong and those have less than a year of shelf life remaining.
Anyone has any experience with the AMD ProBooks? Are they built to last, or are they crap?
Alex
As a side note, should we publish a call for help to lwn.net, phoronix and other sites to have people run one of the mainboard info gathering scripts (e.g. https://gist.github.com/Thermionix/8933550 ) on all recent AMD-based laptops they encounter, and ask for PCB pictures as well in case someone has disassembled the hardware? That would at least allow us to get hardware info for the candidates without having to buy the hardware on speculative basis. For a volunteer effort, picking hardware with supported CPU/chipset is the only option, and making sure the hardware is something we either have code or datasheets for.
The big challence is not to put out the call for help, it's dealing with the responses in a meaningful way. The mailing list is not going to cut it, we may have to use a web form with upload capability. We could even reuse the upload forum of paste.flashrom.org if we need a simple file store (with protection against unauthorized downloads). Uploaded files need to be parsed and classified. The results (i.e. whether coreboot supports the CPU, chipset and other hardware) should be made available to the submitter and/or to the public. It's some work, but the gathered data would IMHO be worth it.
Thoughts?
Regards, Carl-Daniel
Am Freitag, den 28.03.2014, 00:38 +0100 schrieb Carl-Daniel Hailfinger:
Am 25.03.2014 18:44 schrieb mrnuke:
I like your attitude too. I've started developing a Candidacy page [1]. I won't start fiddling hardware or funds until a consensus is reached as to the best option.
There's an interesting trend with these ProBooks. In November, when I got my chromebook, there was only one ProBook with AMD CPU available IIRC. Now there are a number of such models. That may indicate we can expect those to be on the market for a while, or I'm just remembering wrong and those have less than a year of shelf life remaining.
Anyone has any experience with the AMD ProBooks? Are they built to last, or are they crap?
Alex
As a side note, should we publish a call for help to lwn.net, phoronix and other sites to have people run one of the mainboard info gathering scripts (e.g. https://gist.github.com/Thermionix/8933550 ) on all recent AMD-based laptops they encounter, and ask for PCB pictures as well in case someone has disassembled the hardware? That would at least allow us to get hardware info for the candidates without having to buy the hardware on speculative basis. For a volunteer effort, picking hardware with supported CPU/chipset is the only option, and making sure the hardware is something we either have code or datasheets for.
The big challenge is not to put out the call for help, it's dealing with the responses in a meaningful way. The mailing list is not going to cut it, we may have to use a web form with upload capability. We could even reuse the upload forum of paste.flashrom.org if we need a simple file store (with protection against unauthorized downloads). Uploaded files need to be parsed and classified. The results (i.e. whether coreboot supports the CPU, chipset and other hardware) should be made available to the submitter and/or to the public. It's some work, but the gathered data would IMHO be worth it.
That’s a possible way, though I’d rather say to spend that time on doing the port and hope that the people doing it have access to equipment to reverse engineer everything.
Thanks,
Paul
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