Hi,
does anyone have a list of server systems which are shipped with coreboot? I'm interested in coreboot+UEFI systems, coreboot+Linux systems, coreboot+SeaBIOS systems, pure coreboot systems.
At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this. If said person could remind contact me, I'd be thankful.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
Hi friend ! I just googled "coreboot servers" and found this:
https://store.vikings.net/the-server-1u , and https://www.siliconmechanics.com/i7045/opteron-server.php (Installation of coreboot is available with certain configurations; contact Sales for details.)
And, of course, Talos II POWER9 servers which are already available for pre-orders. They are the future of libre server computing : https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/prerelease.php
So basically there are two options: 1) use one of a few coreboot-supported boards with AMD Opterons (which are also a bit outdated) you can even build such a server by yourself, just get the supported hardware and flash coreboot to it 2) preorder Talos II and wait for shiny new server to come ;)
Mike
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
does anyone have a list of server systems which are shipped with coreboot? I'm interested in coreboot+UEFI systems, coreboot+Linux systems, coreboot+SeaBIOS systems, pure coreboot systems.
At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this. If said person could remind contact me, I'd be thankful.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
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On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:29:18PM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
[...] At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
Hi, Carl-Daniel. We chatted at CCC about LinuxBoot servers, which are somewhere in between. The design uses the SEC and PEI portions of the vendor firmware to do CPU and memory bringup, then hands control to a Linux kernel as a replacement for the DXE phase.
There is an effort to support the Open Compute hardware with the LinuxBoot firmware, and the newer OCP nodes already come with OpenBMC.
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At the end of the day, though, this is rather like a rooted iPhone, or running custom software on a TiVo via a hack. It's far from a full open stack and while it may have some utility / advantages for server operators, for the average person I don't know that there's much benefit.
Still, it's good to know the direction coreboot is taking in terms of the proprietary x86 hardware now flooding the market.
On 01/17/2018 04:04 PM, Trammell Hudson wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:29:18PM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
[...] At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
Hi, Carl-Daniel. We chatted at CCC about LinuxBoot servers, which are somewhere in between. The design uses the SEC and PEI portions of the vendor firmware to do CPU and memory bringup, then hands control to a Linux kernel as a replacement for the DXE phase.
There is an effort to support the Open Compute hardware with the LinuxBoot firmware, and the newer OCP nodes already come with OpenBMC.
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Hi Carl-Daniel!
At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
This might be related: https://www.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/hwenablement_open_source_bios_at_...
Regards Felix
Hello Felix, and all,
Le 18 janv. 2018 à 04:17, Felix Held felix-coreboot@felixheld.de a écrit :
Hi Carl-Daniel!
At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
This might be related: https://www.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/hwenablement_open_source_bios_at_... https://www.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/hwenablement_open_source_bios_at_scale/
Well no, I don’t think it could be, or the person was not well informed.
We are not a vendor, but a hosting/cloud company, so we rent servers or service running on them, we do not ship them. Also none of those servers with coreboot were available yet during 34C3.
Anyway, you are welcome to come to my talk at FOSDEM for more details ;-)
Best Regards,
Julien
Regards Felix
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Hi Carl-Daniel,
On 16.01.2018 19:29, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this. If said person could remind contact me, I'd be thankful.
it wasn't me. Though I remember somewhere around December somebody reported DMI information on IRC from a cloud server running on an ADI something from Adlink, likely some microserver. Also, not sure if related, there where some questions from Dell employees on the ML last year.
Generally, you can expect microservers with coreboot nowadays (anything supported by Intel's IoT group). But no fully fledged powerful server (which is still 100% unsupported by Intel). So if you are looking for the latter, your options are (as mentioned before) stale AMD systems, OpenPower (not coreboot but open), modern Intel (maybe AMD too?) servers shipping with UEFI that you can reduce (NERF, not open but best boot experience you can get with proprietary firmware (beside coreboot+blobs) I guess).
If you are looking for microservers, I'd go around and ask. Starting with Adlink.
Nico
On Thu, January 18, 2018 6:37 pm, Nico Huber wrote:
Generally, you can expect microservers with coreboot nowadays (anything supported by Intel's IoT group).
If you're talking IoT range, AMD APU Coreboot can be seen at http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm for example.
In case anyone wants to know the (non-coreboot) libre firmware TALOS 2 single CPU/board combo is now only 2.5K.
I still can't figure out how they managed to make it so affordable, this is seriously great.
how many cores is that? Does it come with LPAR?
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:48 PM Taiidan@gmx.com Taiidan@gmx.com wrote:
In case anyone wants to know the (non-coreboot) libre firmware TALOS 2 single CPU/board combo is now only 2.5K.
I still can't figure out how they managed to make it so affordable, this is seriously great.
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