Re: [coreboot] coreboot code of conduct

[Rudolf Marek]

Hi all

Just out of curiosity why do we need this? Was there some problem now or in the 
past?

I just read the c c of c and I got this impression that we must be really bad 
that we need regulation & arbitration. If nothing like this ever happened I 
would like to see some statement that this c c of c is there just to comply with 
future problems (or similar like it is trendy ;)

Thanks
Rudolf

coreboot code of conduct

[Peter Stuge]

Rudolf Marek wrote:
> Just out of curiosity why do we need this?

To communicate to the rest of the world that these are our values.
> Was there some problem now or in the past?

I'd say that there were small ones, probably mostly arising from our
review process, which can create a lot of frustration.
> I just read the c c of c and I got this impression that we must be
> really bad that we need regulation & arbitration.

Remember that everyone is different, so another person may get a very
different impression.

I personally think of a code of conduct as a sort of asshole filter.
Yes it is "regulation" but it also reminds me to behave well and,
more importantly, *not* to accept if someone behaves badly!

People in general *are* really bad. The internet and open source
projects are sadly no exception, sometimes quite the opposite.

I have personal experience with completely inappropriate behavior in
other projects, and a code of conduct would have been helpful there.

It would have established a mindset and expectations on behavior
within the community, ensuring that the inappropriate behavior would
not have been accepted. Maybe you have also read Lennart Poettering's
comments on how bad some people have treated him online, only because
they disagree with what he works on and his software architecture ideas.
> If nothing like this ever happened I would like to see some statement
> that this c c of c is there just to comply with future problems

I certainly think that the code of conduct is valuable for our future.

It is a clear statement saying "this is how we roll".

//Peter

coreboot code of conduct

[Marc Jones]

Hi Rudolf,

On Sat Jan 17 2015 at 2:06:10 AM Rudolf Marek  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Just out of curiosity why do we need this? Was there some problem now or
> in the
> past?
>
> No, there is not a specific problem in coreboot now or in the past.

Putting a code of conduct in place once there is a problem is too late.
There have been problems in related communities and it is important that we
are clear that poor behavior is unacceptable within our community.
> I just read the c c of c and I got this impression that we must be really
> bad
> that we need regulation & arbitration. If nothing like this ever happened I
> would like to see some statement that this c c of c is there just to
> comply with
> future problems (or similar like it is trendy ;)

There are real problems with harassment and other behaviors in open source
and other online communities. While you may not see them or be exposed to
them, it is something we should be sensitive to. Taking a stand and being
specific is not trendy, it is part of being a mature and responsible
community.

Regards,
Marc
> Thanks
> Rudolf