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Hello
I looked a little through the archives of this mailinglist to see the progress for the Intel 855GME (noted as WIP), Intel 945GM and AMD LX800 (noted as WIP). These are the chipsets mainly used for the Digital-Logic industrial computers.
AMD LX 800 seems to be rather well supported. Is it? Is it usable in productive?
Intel 855GME. Development seems to be dropped due to the lack of support by Intel. What is the state? And what needs to be done?
Intel 945GM. No work seems to be put in this chipset for instance? Is this true or is it compatible with an older supported chipset?
Somehow off topic. Is it possible right now to boot an old Operating System like Windows XP using ADLO and effectively use it afterwards?
I'm new to this list, so i wanted to tell you that i appreciate very much the work you have done.
Thanks in advance
Marc-André
Sorry for the double response Marc-Andre, but I forgot to a do a reply all! Doh!
Intel 855GME. Development seems to be dropped due to the lack of support by Intel. What is the state? And what needs to be done?
I am the one working on 855GME. This is my first attempt at LinuxBIOS but I believe I am making good progress. I based my project off the 855pm already in svn. As of right now most of my work is very specific to my board. After I had the system working stable I was going to go back and fix the ram initialization to work with other setups.
I can currently boot my machine and get to a bash prompt but I have several issue with my southbridge peripherals that I am working out.
If you want I can share what I have so far, but realize that it will only work with your system if it is configured as mine is or you change the code.
Jon
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Jon Dufresne wrote:
Intel 855GME. Development seems to be dropped due to the lack of support by Intel. What is the state? And what needs to be done?
I am the one working on 855GME. This is my first attempt at LinuxBIOS but I believe I am making good progress. I based my project off the 855pm already in svn. As of right now most of my work is very specific to my board. After I had the system working stable I was going to go back and fix the ram initialization to work with other setups.
I can currently boot my machine and get to a bash prompt but I have several issue with my southbridge peripherals that I am working out.
If you want I can share what I have so far, but realize that it will only work with your system if it is configured as mine is or you change the code.
How long do you think will it take in hours to get a stable release of this chip? What parts do you need to fix to get the system stable?
What about specifications from Intel, will they help? Or are they useless anyway due to NDAs?
What about the other two chipsets I mentioned: Intel 945GM and AMD LX800 Is the AMD LX800 booting properly?
I know, this question is not of great interest. Is it possible right now to boot an old Operating System like Windows XP using ADLO and effectively use it afterwards (except of the ACPI)?
On 12/19/06, Marc-André Beck marc-andre_beck@gmx.ch wrote:
What about the other two chipsets I mentioned: Intel 945GM and AMD LX800 Is the AMD LX800 booting properly?
AMD LX is working for Indrek Kruusa on one model board. (see the mail archive) His last mail to me said he had quite a few changes in his tree, and they are missing from the LB tree since they are not generic. LX also requires the VSA binary blob for your platform, which is, in general, not available. If you are intending to create a commercial LX platform with LB, you need to solve that problem. A partial GX VSA was open-sourced for OLPC. LX VSA source is not available.
I know, this question is not of great interest. Is it possible right now to boot an old Operating System like Windows XP using ADLO and effectively use it afterwards (except of the ACPI)?
No, this is not working right now. There is lots of lore about this, but I haven't seen evidence of anyone ever booting XP from LinuxBIOS. 2k and earlier, maybe, but that is all.
Tom Sylla wrote:
On 12/19/06, Marc-André Beck marc-andre_beck@gmx.ch wrote:
What about the other two chipsets I mentioned: Intel 945GM and AMD LX800 Is the AMD LX800 booting properly?
AMD LX is working for Indrek Kruusa on one model board. (see the mail archive) His last mail to me said he had quite a few changes in his tree, and they are missing from the LB tree since they are not generic.
I can provide our source for Geode LX if needed. VSA should be obtained from AMD. And I still have the plan to merge our changes with mainline....
LX also requires the VSA binary blob for your platform, which is, in general, not available.
For VGA your need the VGA ROM from AMD. If you can live without bootsplash and run Xorg at the end then you can omit VGA/VESA support. Xorg has Geode LX native driver in separate git tree.
cheers, Indrek
If you are intending to create a commercial LX platform with LB, you need to solve that problem. A partial GX VSA was open-sourced for OLPC. LX VSA source is not available.
I know, this question is not of great interest. Is it possible right now to boot an old Operating System like Windows XP using ADLO and effectively use it afterwards (except of the ACPI)?
No, this is not working right now. There is lots of lore about this, but I haven't seen evidence of anyone ever booting XP from LinuxBIOS. 2k and earlier, maybe, but that is all.
On 12/21/06, Indrek Kruusa indrek.kruusa@artecdesign.ee wrote:
LX also requires the VSA binary blob for your platform, which is, in general, not available.
For VGA your need the VGA ROM from AMD. If you can live without bootsplash and run Xorg at the end then you can omit VGA/VESA support. Xorg has Geode LX native driver in separate git tree.
One note here: changes were required in the GX X driver to support operation without the VGA ROM running (for OLPC). I would think similar changes would have to be made to the LX driver.
Tom Sylla wrote:
On 12/21/06, Indrek Kruusa indrek.kruusa@artecdesign.ee wrote:
LX also requires the VSA binary blob for your platform, which is, in general, not available.
For VGA your need the VGA ROM from AMD. If you can live without bootsplash and run Xorg at the end then you can omit VGA/VESA support. Xorg has Geode LX native driver in separate git tree.
One note here: changes were required in the GX X driver to support operation without the VGA ROM running (for OLPC). I would think similar changes would have to be made to the LX driver.
No, it works as is.
Indrek
How long do you think will it take in hours to get a stable release of this chip? What parts do you need to fix to get the system stable?
What about specifications from Intel, will they help? Or are they useless anyway due to NDAs?
Documentation is always helpful, although NDAs would create a problem. Intel provides some documentation at no cost on their website. I have bene using that. I don't know how long this board will take me. Like I said this is my first experience with LinuxBIOS.
Right now I am concentrating on the southbridge, because it appears to me that the southbridge is causing my problems. Once I get that done I'll probably go back to making the northbridge more generic. Until then I probably won't be working on it. I can send release what I have so far if you intend to help out, but as I said before it will take some work.
Jon
Hi,
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 01:52:37PM -0500, Jon Dufresne wrote:
Right now I am concentrating on the southbridge, because it appears to me that the southbridge is causing my problems. Once I get that done I'll probably go back to making the northbridge more generic. Until then I probably won't be working on it. I can send release what I have so far if you intend to help out, but as I said before it will take some work.
Feel free to post preliminary patches for early review - they don't need to work or be complete. I think you can get valuable feedback on the list even very early in the development stage...
Also, if you have small fixes or improvements which can be used more or less "standalone" already (without all of the north-/southbridge working), please post patches. We can include those step by step so that the "big merge" at the end (when everything works) isn't one single huge commit...
Uwe.
Ok.
In that case I'll try to put together a patch of my work so far before the end of the day. And show the mailing list.
Jon
On 12/19/06, Uwe Hermann uwe@hermann-uwe.de wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 01:52:37PM -0500, Jon Dufresne wrote:
Right now I am concentrating on the southbridge, because it appears to me that the southbridge is causing my problems. Once I get that done I'll probably go back to making the northbridge more generic. Until then I probably won't be working on it. I can send release what I have so far if you intend to help out, but as I said before it will take some work.
Feel free to post preliminary patches for early review - they don't need to work or be complete. I think you can get valuable feedback on the list even very early in the development stage...
Also, if you have small fixes or improvements which can be used more or less "standalone" already (without all of the north-/southbridge working), please post patches. We can include those step by step so that the "big merge" at the end (when everything works) isn't one single huge commit...
Uwe.
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