Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?

[Ken Fuchs]

LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash.  It does
support ATA (IDE) flash devices.

On a normal (proprietary) BIOS:

Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a BIOS
that supports this.  I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen drive:

http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/

The Flonix forums are at:

http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11

I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB
bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me.  Using Knoppix 3.3
2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader:

# syslinux /dev/sda1

To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from
the Knoppix live CD.

(The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives.
Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with two
SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)

There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB pen
drive or flash.

Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB information.

BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to [e-mail] and it
bounced.  So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list.
Sorry.

Sincerely,

Ken Fuchs

Is possible Linux on flash memory?

[Steven James]

Greetings,

I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb.
It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I haven't
been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it should
probably go there.

G'day,
sjames

-------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs
... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste 2701
the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us 30303
      -since 1995                              http://www.linuxlabs.com
                                              office & fax [phone]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote:
> LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash.  It does
> support ATA (IDE) flash devices.
>
> On a normal (proprietary) BIOS:
>
> Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a BIOS
> that supports this.  I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen drive:
>
> http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/
>
> The Flonix forums are at:
>
> http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11
>
> I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB
> bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me.  Using Knoppix 3.3
> 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader:
>
> # syslinux /dev/sda1
>
> To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from
> the Knoppix live CD.
>
> (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives.
> Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with two
> SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)
>
> There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB pen
> drive or flash.
>
> Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB information.
>
> BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to [e-mail] and it
> bounced.  So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list.
> Sorry.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ken Fuchs 
> _______________________________________________
> Linuxbios mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Is possible Linux on flash memory?

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello from Gregg C Levine
It happens I just finished examining the code for the contents of that
directory. But I've got just one question pending at the moment, how
do you mean, "It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw
device.". Explain that line of reasoning. Do you mean a kernel that's
been pushed through the creation tool that Eric has created? And "raw
device", now I'm lost, how about clarifying your position?
-------------------
Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
------------------------------------------------------------
"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:linuxbios-
> [e-mail]] On Behalf Of Steven James
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:20 PM
> To: Ken Fuchs
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb.
> It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I

haven't
> been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it

should
> probably go there.
>
> G'day,
> sjames
>
> -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux

labs
> ... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste

2701
> the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us

30303
>   -since 1995

http://www.linuxlabs.com
>                                           office & fax

866.545.6306
>

----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote:
> > LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash.  It

does
> > support ATA (IDE) flash devices.
> >
> > On a normal (proprietary) BIOS:
> >
> > Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a

BIOS
> > that supports this.  I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen

drive:
> > http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/
> >
> > The Flonix forums are at:
> >
> > http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11
> >
> > I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB
> > bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me.  Using Knoppix 3.3
> > 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader:
> >
> > # syslinux /dev/sda1
> >
> > To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from
> > the Knoppix live CD.
> >
> > (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives.
> > Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with

two
> > SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)
> >
> > There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB

pen
> > drive or flash.
> >
> > Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB

information.
> > BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to [e-mail]

and it
> > bounced.  So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list.
> > Sorry.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Ken Fuchs 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Linuxbios mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
>
> Linuxbios mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Is possible Linux on flash memory?

[Steven James]

Greetings,

Yes, a kernel processed with Eric's mkelfImage.

I don't have any filesystem code in the loader, so rather than mounting a
filesystem on the USB storage device, you need to partition it and then dd
the kernel image to the first partition.

e.g. if your USB device shows up as sdb, dd if=kernel.elf of=/dev/sdb1

G'day,
sjames

-------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs
... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste 2701
the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us 30303
      -since 1995                              http://www.linuxlabs.com
                                              office & fax [phone]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 8 May 2004, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> It happens I just finished examining the code for the contents of that
> directory. But I've got just one question pending at the moment, how
> do you mean, "It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw
> device.". Explain that line of reasoning. Do you mean a kernel that's
> been pushed through the creation tool that Eric has created? And "raw
> device", now I'm lost, how about clarifying your position?
> Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
>
> "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] [mailto:linuxbios-
> > [e-mail]] On Behalf Of Steven James
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:20 PM
> > To: Ken Fuchs
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb.
> > It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I
>
> haven't
> > been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it
>
> should
> > probably go there.
> >
> > G'day,
> > sjames
> >
> > -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux
>
> labs
> > ... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste
>
> 2701
> > the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us
>
> 30303
> >   -since 1995
>
> http://www.linuxlabs.com
> >                                           office & fax
>
> 866.545.6306
> >
> > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote:
> > > LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash.  It
>
> does
> > > support ATA (IDE) flash devices.
> > >
> > > On a normal (proprietary) BIOS:
> > >
> > > Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a
>
> BIOS
> > > that supports this.  I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen
>
> drive:
> > > http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/
> > >
> > > The Flonix forums are at:
> > >
> > > http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11
> > >
> > > I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB
> > > bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me.  Using Knoppix 3.3
> > > 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader:
> > >
> > > # syslinux /dev/sda1
> > >
> > > To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from
> > > the Knoppix live CD.
> > >
> > > (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives.
> > > Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with
>
> two
> > > SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)
> > >
> > > There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB
>
> pen
> > > drive or flash.
> > >
> > > Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB
>
> information.
> > > BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to [e-mail]
>
> and it
> > > bounced.  So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list.
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Ken Fuchs 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Linuxbios mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
> >
> > Linuxbios mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
>
> Linuxbios mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Is possible Linux on flash memory?

[Yinghai Lu]

Does it work now?

If it works with raw device, after merge it into filo, it should use file system FAT etc.

Regards

YH

-----邮件原件-----
发件人: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Steven James
发送时间: 2004年5月8日 5:18
收件人: Gregg C Levine
抄送: [e-mail]
主题: RE: Is possible Linux on flash memory?

Greetings,

Yes, a kernel processed with Eric's mkelfImage.

I don't have any filesystem code in the loader, so rather than mounting a
filesystem on the USB storage device, you need to partition it and then dd
the kernel image to the first partition.

e.g. if your USB device shows up as sdb, dd if=kernel.elf of=/dev/sdb1

G'day,
sjames

-------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs
... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste 2701
the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us 30303
      -since 1995                              http://www.linuxlabs.com
                                              office & fax [phone]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 8 May 2004, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> It happens I just finished examining the code for the contents of that
> directory. But I've got just one question pending at the moment, how
> do you mean, "It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw
> device.". Explain that line of reasoning. Do you mean a kernel that's
> been pushed through the creation tool that Eric has created? And "raw
> device", now I'm lost, how about clarifying your position?
> Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
>
> "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] [mailto:linuxbios-
> > [e-mail]] On Behalf Of Steven James
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:20 PM
> > To: Ken Fuchs
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb.
> > It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I
>
> haven't
> > been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it
>
> should
> > probably go there.
> >
> > G'day,
> > sjames
> >
> > -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux
>
> labs
> > ... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste
>
> 2701
> > the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us
>
> 30303
> >   -since 1995
>
> http://www.linuxlabs.com
> >                                           office & fax
>
> 866.545.6306
> >
> > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote:
> > > LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash.  It
>
> does
> > > support ATA (IDE) flash devices.
> > >
> > > On a normal (proprietary) BIOS:
> > >
> > > Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a
>
> BIOS
> > > that supports this.  I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen
>
> drive:
> > > http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/
> > >
> > > The Flonix forums are at:
> > >
> > > http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11
> > >
> > > I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB
> > > bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me.  Using Knoppix 3.3
> > > 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader:
> > >
> > > # syslinux /dev/sda1
> > >
> > > To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from
> > > the Knoppix live CD.
> > >
> > > (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives.
> > > Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with
>
> two
> > > SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)
> > >
> > > There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB
>
> pen
> > > drive or flash.
> > >
> > > Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB
>
> information.
> > > BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to [e-mail]
>
> and it
> > > bounced.  So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list.
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Ken Fuchs 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Linuxbios mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
> >
> > Linuxbios mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
>
> Linuxbios mailing list
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> http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

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Is possible Linux on flash memory?

[Steven James]

Greetings,

It works on USB drives that do SCSI over bulk transport. For other drives,
more work will be needed, but I don't have one of those. It can also
enumerate hubs like the iMac keyboard.

G'day,
sjames

-------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs
... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste 2701
the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us 30303
      -since 1995                              http://www.linuxlabs.com
                                              office & fax [phone]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 8 May 2004, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> Does it work now?
>
> If it works with raw device, after merge it into filo, it should use file system FAT etc.
>
> Regards
>
> YH
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Steven James
> 发送时间: 2004年5月8日 5:18
> 收件人: Gregg C Levine
> 抄送: [e-mail]
> 主题: RE: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
>
> Greetings,
>
> Yes, a kernel processed with Eric's mkelfImage.
>
> I don't have any filesystem code in the loader, so rather than mounting a
> filesystem on the USB storage device, you need to partition it and then dd
> the kernel image to the first partition.
>
> e.g. if your USB device shows up as sdb, dd if=kernel.elf of=/dev/sdb1
>
> G'day,
> sjames
>
> -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs
> ... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste 2701
> the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us 30303
>       -since 1995                              http://www.linuxlabs.com
>                                               office & fax [phone]
>
> On Sat, 8 May 2004, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> > Hello from Gregg C Levine
> > It happens I just finished examining the code for the contents of that
> > directory. But I've got just one question pending at the moment, how
> > do you mean, "It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw
> > device.". Explain that line of reasoning. Do you mean a kernel that's
> > been pushed through the creation tool that Eric has created? And "raw
> > device", now I'm lost, how about clarifying your position?
> > Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
> >
> > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail] [mailto:linuxbios-
> > > [e-mail]] On Behalf Of Steven James
> > > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:20 PM
> > > To: Ken Fuchs
> > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb.
> > > It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I
> >
> > haven't
> > > been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it
> >
> > should
> > > probably go there.
> > >
> > > G'day,
> > > sjames
> > >
> > > -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux
> >
> > labs
> > > ... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste
> >
> > 2701
> > > the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us
> >
> > 30303
> > >   -since 1995
> >
> > http://www.linuxlabs.com
> > >                                           office & fax
> >
> > 866.545.6306
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote:
> > > > LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash.  It
> >
> > does
> > > > support ATA (IDE) flash devices.
> > > >
> > > > On a normal (proprietary) BIOS:
> > > >
> > > > Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a
> >
> > BIOS
> > > > that supports this.  I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen
> >
> > drive:
> > > > http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/
> > > >
> > > > The Flonix forums are at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11
> > > >
> > > > I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB
> > > > bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me.  Using Knoppix 3.3
> > > > 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader:
> > > >
> > > > # syslinux /dev/sda1
> > > >
> > > > To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from
> > > > the Knoppix live CD.
> > > >
> > > > (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives.
> > > > Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with
> >
> > two
> > > > SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)
> > > >
> > > > There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB
> >
> > pen
> > > > drive or flash.
> > > >
> > > > Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB
> >
> > information.
> > > > BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to [e-mail]
> >
> > and it
> > > > bounced.  So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list.
> > > > Sorry.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Ken Fuchs 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Linuxbios mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
> > >
> > > Linuxbios mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
> >
> > Linuxbios mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
>
> Linuxbios mailing list
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>
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答复: Is possible Linux on flash memory?

[Yinghai Lu]

Great, I will move that to filo in etherboot to have a test next week.

YH

-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Steven James [mailto:[e-mail]] 
发送时间: 2004年5月8日 10:14
收件人: Yinghai Lu
抄送: 'Gregg C Levine'; [e-mail]
主题: re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?

Greetings,

It works on USB drives that do SCSI over bulk transport. For other drives,
more work will be needed, but I don't have one of those. It can also
enumerate hubs like the iMac keyboard.

G'day,
sjames

-------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs
... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste 2701
the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us 30303
      -since 1995                              http://www.linuxlabs.com
                                              office & fax [phone]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 8 May 2004, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> Does it work now?
>
> If it works with raw device, after merge it into filo, it should use file

system FAT etc.
> Regards
>
> YH
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: [e-mail]

[mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Steven James
> 发送时间: 2004年5月8日 5:18
> 收件人: Gregg C Levine
> 抄送: [e-mail]
> 主题: RE: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
>
> Greetings,
>
> Yes, a kernel processed with Eric's mkelfImage.
>
> I don't have any filesystem code in the loader, so rather than mounting a
> filesystem on the USB storage device, you need to partition it and then dd
> the kernel image to the first partition.
>
> e.g. if your USB device shows up as sdb, dd if=kernel.elf of=/dev/sdb1
>
> G'day,
> sjames
>
> -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs
> ... ........ ..... ....                    230 peachtree st nw ste 2701
> the original linux labs                             atlanta.ga.us 30303
>       -since 1995                              http://www.linuxlabs.com
>                                               office & fax [phone]
>
> On Sat, 8 May 2004, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> > Hello from Gregg C Levine
> > It happens I just finished examining the code for the contents of that
> > directory. But I've got just one question pending at the moment, how
> > do you mean, "It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw
> > device.". Explain that line of reasoning. Do you mean a kernel that's
> > been pushed through the creation tool that Eric has created? And "raw
> > device", now I'm lost, how about clarifying your position?
> > Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
> >
> > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail] [mailto:linuxbios-
> > > [e-mail]] On Behalf Of Steven James
> > > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:20 PM
> > > To: Ken Fuchs
> > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb.
> > > It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I
> >
> > haven't
> > > been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it
> >
> > should
> > > probably go there.
> > >
> > > G'day,
> > > sjames
> > >
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> > > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote:
> > > > LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash.  It
> >
> > does
> > > > support ATA (IDE) flash devices.
> > > >
> > > > On a normal (proprietary) BIOS:
> > > >
> > > > Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a
> >
> > BIOS
> > > > that supports this.  I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen
> >
> > drive:
> > > > http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/
> > > >
> > > > The Flonix forums are at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11
> > > >
> > > > I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB
> > > > bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me.  Using Knoppix 3.3
> > > > 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader:
> > > >
> > > > # syslinux /dev/sda1
> > > >
> > > > To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from
> > > > the Knoppix live CD.
> > > >
> > > > (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives.
> > > > Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with
> >
> > two
> > > > SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)
> > > >
> > > > There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB
> >
> > pen
> > > > drive or flash.
> > > >
> > > > Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB
> >
> > information.
> > > > BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to [e-mail]
> >
> > and it
> > > > bounced.  So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list.
> > > > Sorry.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Ken Fuchs 
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