I guess what I’m thinking is I’m not sure it’s worth the effort to make a build work for something that is physically impossible

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 12:11 Felix Held <felix-coreboot@felixheld.de> wrote:
Hi Mike,

SPI NOR flash chips with more than 16MByte use 4 byte addresses while
ones with up to 16MBytes use 3 byte addresses. The SPI flash controllers
on older systems often only support the 3 byte address mode. Also
typically only up to 16 MBytes worth of SPI flash contents can be mapped
right below the 4GB boundary, since the 16MByte below that contain the
MMIO of for example LAPIC and IOAPIC.
Had a quick look at the BKDG for family 16h model 30h, which is newer
than the chip used on G505S or A88XM-E, and it didn't have the registers
in the SPI controller that I'd expect to be present if it supports the 4
byte address mode.

Regards,
Felix

On 19/02/2024 19:55, Mike Banon wrote:
> Theoretically - yes, if someone finds & solders there a 32 MB (256
> megabit) SPI Flash chip with 8 pins. Hopefully, as the proprietary
> UEFIs become more & more bloated, these large capacity chips will
> become more widely available in the near future. And, since a coreboot
> itself consumes less than 1MB on these "opensource AGESA" AMD systems
> such as G505S and A88XM-E, all this room will allow some very
> interesting experiments! If even 3 MB is enough for me to put 9 of 10
> floppies of the collection described here (thanks to LZMA compression)
> - http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Lenovo_G505S_hacking#Useful_floppies
> , guess what wonders we can do with 31 MB... ;-)
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:17 PM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can the system you are discussing actually use larger than 16 MB rom?
>>
>>   I am wondering about your use of the phrase “out of curiosity”
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 07:05 Mike Banon <mikebdp2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Small bump, I am still having this error while (out of curiosity)
>>> trying to build the Lenovo G505S ROM for 32 MB or 64 MB spi flash:
>>>
>>>      OBJCOPY    bootblock.raw.bin
>>> Created CBFS (capacity = 33488356 bytes)
>>>      BOOTBLOCK
>>>      CBFS       cbfs_master_header
>>>      CBFS       fallback/romstage
>>> Image SIZE 33554432
>>> cbfstool: /media/mint/2183183a-158f-476a-81af-b42534a68706/shared/core/coreboot/util/cbfstool/cbfstool.c:1186:
>>> cbfstool_convert_mkstage: Assertion
>>> `IS_HOST_SPACE_ADDRESS(host_space_address)' failed.
>>> Aborted (core dumped)
>>> make: *** [Makefile.mk:1210: build/coreboot.pre] Error 134
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, it builds fine for 4 MB / 8 MB / 16 MB , only these large
>>> sizes are a problem
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 12:55 AM Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can see a little bug that makes this return a confusing error (it
>>>> should have really failed with `SPI flash address(0x300) not in any
>>>> mmap window!`), and we can fix that if you want. But that still won't
>>>> make this build (and my patch didn't cause the underlying problem,
>>>> before that it may have built an image but it probably wouldn't have
>>>> booted). By default cbfstool only expects the top 16MB of the flash to
>>>> be memory-mapped, so it cannot link XIP stages into areas outside of
>>>> that. The real solution is to either change your FMAP to put the
>>>> COREBOOT section into the top 16MB (we might want to change the
>>>> auto-generated default FMAP to do that), or pass
>>>> --ext-win-base/--ext-win-size options to cbfstool to tell it how to
>>>> map areas below the top 16MB.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 1:09 AM Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.06.22 um 09:49 schrieb Mike Banon:
>>>>>> If I use a default config for i440fx/piix4, building a 16MB ROM works
>>>>>> fine, but 32MB or 64MB doesn't work anymore:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>       CC         postcar/southbridge/intel/common/rtc.o
>>>>>>       LINK       cbfs/fallback/postcar.debug
>>>>>>       OBJCOPY    cbfs/fallback/romstage.elf
>>>>>>       CREATE     build/mainboard/emulation/qemu-i440fx/cbfs-file.vqaXlP.out (from /home/my_custom_path_to/coreboot/.config)
>>>>>>       CC+STRIP   src/lib/cbfs_master_header.c
>>>>>>       OBJCOPY    cbfs/fallback/bootblock.elf
>>>>>>       OBJCOPY    bootblock.raw.elf
>>>>>>       OBJCOPY    bootblock.raw.bin
>>>>>> Created CBFS (capacity = 33553892 bytes)
>>>>>>       BOOTBLOCK
>>>>>>       CBFS       cbfs_master_header
>>>>>>       CBFS       fallback/romstage
>>>>>> cbfstool: /home/my_custom_path_to/coreboot/util/cbfstool/cbfstool.c:1145: cbfstool_convert_mkstage: Assertion `IS_HOST_SPACE_ADDRESS(host_space_address)' failed.
>>>>>> make: *** [Makefile.inc:1116: build/coreboot.pre] Aborted
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the report. It looks like a regression of commit
>>>>> 20ad36547e25 (cbfstool: Do host space address conversion earlier when
>>>>> adding files) [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Building a 32 MB ROM also fails for emulation/qemu-q35
>>>>> (`CONFIG_BOARD_EMULATION_QEMU_X86_Q35=y`).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]: https://review.coreboot.org/c/coreboot/+/60018
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