I would not be so critique oriented to Youness Alaoui, but much more appreciative. Do not know too much about Purism as company, but if Purism made some fraud/false promises to its customers, it is another story, which does NOT have anything to do with Youness and his published work here.

Every Open Source effort to debug/explain INTEL ME and its modules, even in "C" pseudo code which does NOT compile makes VERY great/positive effort toward mysteries resolved. At least to me. It reveals more missing puzzles to the PCH/ME architectural picture, at least.

To me, it means a lot. I do need to know as much of the picture as possible. You all guess why?! ;-)

I will certainly encourage Youness to continue with his work. Great work (explaining additional black holes in ME) done!

Please, keep up the good work! :-)

Zoran Stojsavljevic

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Nico Huber <nico.huber@secunet.com> wrote:
On 02.05.2017 04:52, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Ron couldn't be more right when he says that you can't appreciate how much
> work it is to go from a "it works" to a "it's tested/verified and made into
> a *product* for actual users". It took me 6 months of work to finish the 4
> days of work that Duncan Laurie did (I believe it took him 4 days to do the
> initial port, feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken, and yes of course, I
> am totally new to the coreboot world, so a lot/most of that time was spent
> on the learning curve).

Well, I interpret Ron very differently... I think you are at the "it
works" state. 6 months of coding are the easy part where you don't have
to convince other entities to use your code. Let's wait until you have
made it into a shipping product and reflect then. I guess the really
tricky part comes when you ask your contractor not to license the UEFI
they usually ship (i.e. don't let your coreboot customers pay for the
other side).

Nico

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