<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 27, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Programmingkid <<a href="mailto:programmingkidx@gmail.com" class="">programmingkidx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:51 PM, BALATON Zoltan <<a href="mailto:balaton@eik.bme.hu" class="">balaton@eik.bme.hu</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">On Thu, 21 Dec 2017, Programmingkid wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Dec 21, 2017, at 12:56 PM, BALATON Zoltan <<a href="mailto:balaton@eik.bme.hu" class="">balaton@eik.bme.hu</a>> wrote:<br class="">On Thu, 21 Dec 2017, Jd Lyons wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Programmingkid <<a href="mailto:programmingkidx@gmail.com" class="">programmingkidx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Jd Lyons <<a href="mailto:lyons_dj@yahoo.com" class="">lyons_dj@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">I don’t know, this maybe an issue with the way we have defined “us”.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">I'm not sure the us word is related to problems with b?branch but I don't know anything about this other than reading the conversation here. They look unrelated to me but it could well be I did not undersand this at all.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Looking through the SLOF code it seems they call it like this in the timebase.fs:<br class="">: tb@ ( -- tb )<br class="">BEGIN tbu@ tbl@ tbu@ rot over <> WHILE 2drop REPEAT<br class="">20 lshift swap ffffffff and or<br class="">;<br class="">: milliseconds ( -- ms ) tb@ d# 1000 * tb-frequency / ;<br class="">: microseconds ( -- us ) tb@ d# 1000000 * tb-frequency / ;<br class="">: ms ( ms-to-wait -- ) milliseconds + BEGIN milliseconds over >= UNTIL drop ;<br class="">: get-msecs ( -- n ) milliseconds ;<br class="">: us ( us-to-wait -- ) microseconds + BEGIN microseconds over >= UNTIL drop ;<br class="">Not sure if I can port/hack this code over, the copier seems to have trouble with tbu@ tbl@?<br class=""></blockquote>The ms and get-msecs words don't appear to be implemented correctly on OpenBIOS. 10000 ms should pause OpenBIOS for 10 seconds. It does not.<br class="">I did find a function called udelay() in the drivers/timer.c file. Maybe I can implement the word us using udelay(). Then the ms word could be implemented using the us word.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">See what you can do about : us, but we maybe running into an issue with Qemu/mac99. Every version of the Mac OS reports a different bus and cpu speed, so we maybe having trouble with the way the timebase is calculated in Qemu.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I think you have two choices for this:<br class=""><br class="">1. Either export udelay (or _wait_ticks it's based on) to Forth and implement these words based on that. But this comment in drivers/timer.c:<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">How would I do this?<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">/*<br class="">* TODO: pass via lb table<br class="">*/<br class="">unsigned long timer_freq = 10000000 / 4;<br class=""><br class="">suggests you may need to fix this first to take into accound the actual TB frequency from the CPU instead of some hardcoded value.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">This would make a good next step.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">2. Alternatively, you could either add new helpers (maybe in arch/ppc/timebase.S) to implement tbl@ and tbu@ which probably should just do mftb and mftbu respectively or export to Forth the already existing _get_ticks which returns these as a combined 64 bit value and derive the lower and upper 32 bits from Forth and then maybe you can use the above implementation from SLOF.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">It is a possibility.<br class=""><br class="">We still need a way to access any new C function from forth. The only thing that I think would work is implementing the us word in a device node, then make another definition of us that is available to the dictionary. If anyone has a way to do this, an example would be great.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I don't know much about this but looking at the code I think _get_ticks is almost equivalent to tb@ above except that _get_ticks returns tbu@ in %r3 and tbl@ in %r4 but tb@ also combines these into one value. Then you can see e.g. in arch/ppc/qemu/init.c that the bind_func() function is used to make C functions available from Forth. So you could make a C function which calls _get_ticks then combines %r3 and %r4 into a 64bit value (so implements what tb@ does in C) then bind this to tb@. Or bind _get_ticks and implement tb@ calling this and combining the upper and lower values from Forth like above (I think this is what '20 lshift swap ffffffff and or' does but I don't know Forth to tell).<br class=""><br class="">You'll also need tb-frequency which can be found in the cpu properties (added in arch/ppc/qemu/init.c by reading the correct value from QEMU). SLOF has a function that seems to be called during init but I can't read Forth enough to tell for sure what it actually does:<br class=""><br class="">\ Fixup timebase frequency from device-tree<br class="">: fixup-tbfreq<br class=""> " /cpus/@0" find-device<br class=""> " timebase-frequency" get-node get-package-property IF<br class=""> 2drop<br class=""> ELSE<br class=""> decode-int to tb-frequency 2drop<br class=""> THEN<br class=""> device-end<br class="">;<br class="">fixup-tbfreq<br class=""><br class="">But I think this is what sets tb-frequency global value so you'll probably need something similar somewhere (maybe ppc.fs). Then you have tb@ and tb-frequency so the rest should work.<br class=""><br class="">Now it's your turn to find out how to do this in OpenBIOS.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">BALATON Zoltan<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">This code can be directly pasted into OpenBIOS:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">0 value tb-frequency</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">\ Fixup timebase frequency from device-tree</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">: fixup-tbfreq</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> " /cpus/@0" find-device</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> " timebase-frequency" active-package get-package-property IF</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> 2drop</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> ELSE</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> decode-int to tb-frequency 2drop</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> THEN</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> device-end</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">;</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">fixup-tbfreq</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I applied your patch, and used this code in Openbios, then booted the Mac OS to see if it reported the correct Bus Frequency, but it still reporting 400mhz bus speed.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Not really sure what this code should do, but, I’m not sure you are aware, qemu's new_world.c and the old_world.c also set the timebase for mac99 and g3biege.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks for putting in this work. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Now that tbl@, tbu@, and tb-frequency are done, the code from SLOF will probably work in OpenBIOS.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; 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