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<p>Thank you for your reply.</p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">I would
really like to be able to buy a Talos 2 system, I've been
following the development news for months and it's really
impressive what Raptor is doing</span></span> </p>
<p>Last photos in Fosdem were stunning!.</p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">Like you,
I think the price is very reasonable given the kind of system
it is.<br>
</span></span></p>
<p>For now it is out of my budget but <span id="result_box"
class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="">I hope this could
change in the future. I wish Raptor all the success.</span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="">I
don´t plan to use KGPE-D16 for gaming but more like a
general-purpose workstation.</span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="">Now
I have a 6238 and I think I will buy a 6282 for the second
socket.</span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="">Thank
you very much for your offering and your support Taiidan.<br>
</span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="">Regards,</span></span></p>
<p><span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="">-
Eli<br>
</span></span></p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/02/2018 2:05, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Taiidan@gmx.com">Taiidan@gmx.com</a>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:8ea13f8b-fb6c-8ec5-325d-9f1670fc0a07@gmx.com">I concur
with Tim, if you do not need to run x86_64 only applications then
the brand new Libre Firmware/Owner Controlled TALOS 2 is a much
better deal and will provide significantly higher mileage than
this older opteron platform. <br>
<br>
I don't know how raptor did it, but it costs less and has more
better features than the equivilant in performance never owner
controlled x86_64 new AMD/Intel options. <br>
<br>
Libre Firmware Talos 2: <br>
Board and the base 4 core cpu - $2,500 <br>
<br>
Much slower libre firmware opteron: <br>
$415 for KGPE-D16 + approx $500 for dual 6386SE CPU's = $1,000 <br>
<br>
An extra $1,500 is worth it for a motherboard that has a future,
and to help ensure the future of owner controlled hardware. <br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://raptorcs.com">https://raptorcs.com</a>
<br>
<br>
Notes: <br>
Raptor also made the libre firmware for the KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8
boards, and a variety of other coreboot motherboards - so they
have a proven track record. <br>
If the T2 isn't successful it will be the end of high performance
owner controlled hardware, which is why I urge everyone with the
means to purchase one instead of a non-free x86_64 system - it is
worth it both for the performance (PCI-e 4.0, SMT4, IBM's great
OpenBMC etc) and for the freedom (FSF RYF cert pending!) <br>
<br>
On 02/20/2018 02:12 PM, Elisenda Cuadros wrote: <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hello, <br>
<br>
Is it really worth 63xx series instead 62xx? <br>
</blockquote>
*only if you are gaming* not simply just using some random x86_64
only apps like the autodesk stuff etc <br>
<br>
generally for the best G34 CPU's price is about the same - 6386SE
will be similarly price as 6287SE - and both have nearly the same
performance. <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">They are _much more_ expensive. </blockquote>
Which ones are you looking at? <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Is there any public benchmark? <br>
</blockquote>
cpubenchmark.net <br>
<br>
If you want to game in a VM (via IOMMU-GFX) on a KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8
let me know, I am happy to assist with that (and all things libre
hardware/firmware). <br>
</blockquote>
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